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Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Forostar, Jul 10, 2013.

  1. Dr. Eddies Wingman

    Dr. Eddies Wingman Brighter than thousand_suns

    Well, even das Rindfleischetikettierungsüberwachungsaufgabenübertragungsgesetz is only 67 characters (including the space) :p
     
  2. Black Bart

    Black Bart Ancient Mariner

    There must be some prog band somewhere whose name (or song or album name) is The Great Vowel Shift. Surely.
     
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  3. Ariana

    Ariana Purple leopard

    Chorus:
    i: --> ai
    a: --> ei
    u: --> au
    etc.
     
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  4. Legatodave

    Legatodave Nomad

    Language has never been my strongest area of English.
    Its very mindopening to see this talked about in such detail on a Iron Maiden forum --relates to Harry and specially bruce who is a master with words.
     
  5. LooseCannon

    LooseCannon Self-propelled artillery Staff Member

  6. Forostar

    Forostar Conjure the Death Star again

  7. Brigantium

    Brigantium Work Geordie for hire Staff Member

    That petitions website spawns so much rubbish.
     
  8. Ariana

    Ariana Purple leopard

  9. JudasMyGuide

    JudasMyGuide A Bug

    Ireland takes over the GB before 2066!!! :eek:

    EDIT: Oh, they say it'll be replaced by "f" or "d", not "t", so my mistag.
     
  10. Brigantium

    Brigantium Work Geordie for hire Staff Member

    Is the study actually claiming it will be lost from English per se in this time frame, or just in London?

    If today's MLE became standardised in its own right and then became the standard/prestige accent in London, it would gradually be more widely used across England - but not necessarily wipe out the 'th' sounds in other regions, not that quickly - and particularly not in other English-speaking countries that don't revolve around London. I'm not convinced that social barriers have been anywhere near broken down enough yet for a newly-forming regional accent of this type to become the polite London one.

    Plus the Telegraph is one of those papers that loves to raise a panic about traditional British culture being eroded by foreigners. ;)

    I do agree to some extent with the pattern of more localised accent and language variation morphing into those of large urban centres, though. I've seen that in Yorkshire, with older-style local accents and expressions being used by fewer younger people, who seem to have moved more to Leeds or Sheffield accents. Those are currently strong regional accents in their own right, though, they differ a lot from standard type English, and even more so from regional London accents. People can use standard pronunciation to make themselves understood, but they don't use it all the time.
     
  11. Dr. Eddies Wingman

    Dr. Eddies Wingman Brighter than thousand_suns

    We have that phenomenon in Norway as well. Local dialects converge towards the dialect spoken in the regional centres (e.g. in Middle Norway they converge towards how they speak in Trondheim) and some words and forms are being used less and less.
     
  12. Freeyyaa

    Freeyyaa mordebo et stringebo

    Back to Old English!
     
  13. Forostar

    Forostar Conjure the Death Star again

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  14. Black Bart

    Black Bart Ancient Mariner

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  15. Freeyyaa

    Freeyyaa mordebo et stringebo

    Do you want some Anglish to hear?

     
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  16. The Flash

    The Flash Dennis Wilcock did 9/11

    Random, but does anyone else feel like the American way of saying France - /fræns/ - really takes all the power away from its intonation? The British way of saying it /'frɑ:ns/sounds really strong. The former makes them sound like a weak nation, the latter does the opposite.

    There's a war joke there, I know, I'll refrain from doing it.
     
  17. JudasMyGuide

    JudasMyGuide A Bug

    Maybe they just see them as friends, moreso than the Brits. :D
     
  18. Black Bart

    Black Bart Ancient Mariner

    So where does Bruce stand in the final line of "Empire of the Clouds" then?
     
  19. Black Wizard

    Black Wizard Out of the Silent Planet

  20. Brigantium

    Brigantium Work Geordie for hire Staff Member

    The current representative of the English language is a comedy Donald Trump? :eek:
     

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