Vancouver '10 Games

Onhell

Infinite Dreamer
The Olympics start this Friday and I think it is time to start discussing how Canada is going to CRUSH everybody else in hockey, the U.S is going to sweep in Snowboarding and Jamaica will make a triumphant return to Bobsleding... ok that last one I made up but still...

Any events you guys looking forward too? To be honest aside from the Hockey I don't care much for the other events.

I'll watch the bobsleding, the figure skating for the ocassional cute Eastern European and the Speed Skating crossing my fingers one of them will bite the ice, but the other events are pretty... Meh.
 
I guess Norway is going to stand more or less still in those 13 days.

I also guess the Winter Olympics is much bigger in Europe than in North America where you only care for hockey.

I look forward to the hockey as well, although I'm quite sure Norway are going to be used as practice cones for Canada.
 
I'm not much for Olympics.  There is a lot of hoopla, a lot of money spent for national prestige and then it is over and everyone forgets about it until later down the road when nationalistic agendas ensure that you remember that heroic Canadian athlete and how bad it is that NBC has so much control over it and oh my god why is Arnie Schwarzaneggareraagger carrying the torch and then this is not a run on sentence.  Though I promised my dear loving wife that I would watch figure skating with her for Valentine's Day and damn it I intend to follow through no matter how painful the experience is just for love and this is not a run on sentence either gotta go.
 
I think the concept of the Olympics is a very good one - finding a way to express antagonistic desires positively - but I think the execution has sometimes been lame. Regardless, hockey.
 
Eddies Wingman said:
I also guess the Winter Olympics is much bigger in Europe than in North America where you only care for hockey.

Don't forget Bob sledding... and skeleton which is bob sledding for crazy people... Speed skating, skaters on speed, can't be missed... and female figure skating... 
 
I really do enjoy it all. It's always fun to watch, even if Canada's not in it, I usually pick a favourite and cheer.

Like I will do with the World Cup!
 
Unfortunately most Europeans won't see a minute of it, live.

My parents are so much into the speed skating that they plan to record it every night, try to prevent to find out who won, and watch it during the day.

I'll probably learn the results every morning.
 
It'll be on very early in the morning I expect, which is quite sad for Europeans. But goddamn it, it was our turn!
 
Forostar said:

Guess he will dominate, yes. Norway's Håvard Bøkko is a good candidate for swooping up the second places behind Kramer. He's done so frequently over the last couple of years.

All the traditional skiing events are what Norwegians will probably follow most eagerly. Cross-country, where we have winning candidates both in the men's and women's events, and which is considered our national sport. Then there is biathlon, where we have two of the biggest favourites (Ole Einar Bjørndalen and Emil Hegle Svendsen), and this is actually the most popular TV sport in Norway during winter. In the women's class we've got a couple of outsiders as well.

Our alpine skiing ace Aksel Lund Svindal has started to show form again lately, so he'll be challenging for medals in downhill and Super-G. Looking forward to that as well. Besides him, there's not much to write home about in Norwegian alpine skiing nowadays. Nothing like the 90s ...

I have to admit that I may be a bit spoilt having grown up watching the 90s where Norway were good at nearly everything. Even football.  For a period we were even better than the Dutch at speed skating  :P

No, really, I'm looking forward to most events where we have people participating. There will be some late nights over the next couple of weeks.


By the way, if Lindsey Vonn can shake off her injury I might also try to catch the women's downhill  :wub:
 
I wonder if Canada is finally going to win their first(!) golden medal at their third(!) Winter Olympics, organized in their own country.

Eddies Wingman said:
Guess he will dominate, yes. Norway's Håvard Bøkko is a good candidate for swooping up the second places behind Kramer. He's done so frequently over the last couple of years.

All the traditional skiing events are what Norwegians will probably follow most eagerly. Cross-country, where we have winning candidates both in the men's and women's events, and which is considered our national sport. Then there is biathlon, where we have two of the biggest favourites (Ole Einar Bjørndalen and Emil Hegle Svendsen), and this is actually the most popular TV sport in Norway during winter. In the women's class we've got a couple of outsiders as well.

Our alpine skiing ace Aksel Lund Svindal has started to show form again lately, so he'll be challenging for medals in downhill and Super-G. Looking forward to that as well. Besides him, there's not much to write home about in Norwegian alpine skiing nowadays. Nothing like the 90s ...

I have to admit that I may be a bit spoilt having grown up watching the 90s where Norway were good at nearly everything. Even football.  For a period we were even better than the Dutch at speed skating  :P

The Dutch have a fine speed skating tradition. You could see Kramer as the latest name in this list of legendary allrounders:

Hjalmar Johan "Hjallis" Andersen (Norway)
Ard Schenk (Netherlands)
Eric Heiden (USA)
Johann Olav Koss (Norway)
Sven Kramer (Netherlands)

The pressure on Kramer's shoulders is enormous, the whole country expects him to get two golden medals at least.
 
Of your own you could perhaps also have included Kees Verkerk and the more recent Rintje Ritsma, I remember some classic duels between Ritsma and Koss around 1995.

What I find a bit strange is that the other big winter sports nations, like Germany and Russia, have never really dominated men's speed skating. It seems like many of the winter sports events are very popular in a few countries, but not the same countries.

Speed skating = Huge in the Netherlands and to a certain extent in Norway (at least before)
Cross country = Huge in Norway, Sweden and Finland, not so much in the rest of Europe
Alpine skiing = Huge in Central Europe
Ski jumping = Huge in Germany and Austria
Ice hockey = Huge in Sweden, Finland, Russia (plus of course North America).
 
Eddies Wingman said:
Of your own you could perhaps also have included Kees Verkerk and the more recent Rintje Ritsma, I remember some classic duels between Ritsma and Koss around 1995.

The tragedy of these skaters is that they skated in the era of Schenk & Koss. However, Ritsma had a long career with many golden medals. Unfortunately for him, never that important one: the golden Olympic medal.

Still his achievements are impressive:

He has won the World Allround Championships 4 times. He won this title in 1995, 1996, 1999 and 2001; he was second in 1998 and 2003; he was third in 1993, 1994 and 2000.

He has won the European Allround Championships a record 6 times: 1994-1996 and 1998-2000.

He has won two silver and four bronze medals at the Winter Olympics, from the 1994, 1998 and 2006 Games.

He also stood at the top of the alltime world ranking, the Adelskalender, for a long time (1,125 days in total).


Eddies Wingman said:
What I find a bit strange is that the other big winter sports nations, like Germany and Russia, have never really dominated men's speed skating. It seems like many of the winter sports events are very popular in a few countries, but not the same countries.

Indeed, but some women from Germany ruled the sport for ages.

Eddies Wingman said:
Speed skating = Huge in the Netherlands and to a certain extent in Norway (at least before)

Yes. But when it comes to shorter distances, the sport is big in Japan, Korea and North America, and Shani Davis is pretty good at other distances as well.

Eddies Wingman said:
Cross country = Huge in Norway, Sweden and Finland, not so much in the rest of Europe.

I thought some people from Central/Eastern Europe are pretty good, so this can be exciting.

Eddies Wingman said:
Alpine skiing = Huge in Central Europe

I wish Hermann Maier was still active. What a legend he was.

Eddies Wingman said:
Ski jumping = Huge in Germany and Austria

This sport is immensely popular in Poland. The whole country will be watching, basically because Adam Małysz launched the sport's popularity when he won the Four Hills Tournament and the world championship in individual normal hill, in the 2000/01 season. Małysz is considered to be one of the best and most successful ski jumpers of all time, winning 38 World Cup competitions, with only Finn Matti Nykänen having won more (46). Małysz is the only ski jumper ever to win the World Cup 4 times (equalling the result of Matti Nykänen) and 3 times in a row. He has also won the most titles in the history of the individual World Championships.

However, he isn't that great lately.. still all those Poles will be very excited, you can count on that.
If Małysz will disappoint, my favourite jumper will be Janne Ahonen, the ice cold Finn who recently made a nice comeback.

Eddies Wingman said:
Ice hockey = Huge in Sweden, Finland, Russia (plus of course North America).

We have an ice hockey competition in the Netherlands, but I don't think our team ever played on the World Championships or Olympic Games. (Ghehe: On the other Olympics we've achieved a lot with hockey (without the ice before it). )

I am curious about our bobsleigh teams. If I recall well, our men have done well this season, so I hope they're going to surprise us ! :)
 
I'm schocked Norway doesn't have a better hockey team. Their focus is obviously in the other winter sports. It is an oddly nitche sport. There is "The big Eight": Canada, Russia, Sweden, Finland, USA, Slovakia and the Czech Republic and Germany and even in those countries the talent and skill drops off dramatically after the first 3, Germany is lucky to be included in the group.  Allowing pro players is largely to blame (adopted in the Nagano games of '98), since Latvia, Belarus, Japan, etc. either have one or no players in the NHL. Granted the "powers" (Canada, Russia, Sweden) have very talented non-pro or minor league players and most of the nations are filling up their rosters with ex or soon to be NHLers...  but fact still remains other nations just can't compete with that...
 
Canada isn't just about the hockey, either. We have a very, very strong speed skating team in both men and women's - Cindy Klassen won 6 gold medals in Turin, if you will recall. We also have a good snowboard and ski team, and our curlers are top notch. I think there's something for everyone, but I just enjoy watching everything the Olympics has to offer.
 
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