The Americans

IronDuke

Ancient Mariner
The following speech was given by Gordon Sinclair, a Canadian journalist and thinker, in 1973. At the time, the US economy was in the shits, they had been in an unpopular war for too long, and the world just didn't give a damn when a disaster (coincidently, also in the Mississippi Delta region) struck. Sinclair had the following to say, and I think it is quite relevant to the current situation faced today:

"LET'S BE PERSONAL"
Broadcast June 5, 1973
CFRB, Toronto, Ontario
Topic: "The Americans"

The United States dollar took another pounding on German, French and British exchanges this morning, hitting the lowest point ever known in West Germany. It has declined there by 41% since 1971 and this Canadian thinks it is time to speak up for the Americans as the most generous and possibly the least-appreciated people in all the earth.

As long as sixty years ago, when I first started to read newspapers, I read of floods on the Yellow River and the Yangtse. Who rushed in with men and money to help? The Americans did.

They have helped control floods on the Nile, the Amazon, the Ganges and the Niger. Today, the rich bottom land of the Misssissippi is under water and no foreign land has sent a dollar to help. Germany, Japan and, to a lesser extent, Britain and Italy, were lifted out of the debris of war by the Americans who poured in billions of dollars and forgave other billions in debts. None of those countries is today paying even the interest on its remaining debts to the United States.

When the franc was in danger of collapsing in 1956, it was the Americans who propped it up and their reward was to be insulted and swindled on the streets of Paris. I was there. I saw it.

When distant cities are hit by earthquakes, it is the United States that hurries into help... Managua Nicaragua is one of the most recent examples. So far this spring, 59 American communities have been flattened by tornadoes. Nobody has helped.

The Marshall Plan .. the Truman Policy .. all pumped billions upon billions of dollars into discouraged countries. Now, newspapers in those countries are writing about the decadent war-mongering Americans.

I'd like to see one of those countries that is gloating over the erosion of the United States dollar build its own airplanes.

Come on... let's hear it! Does any other country in the world have a plane to equal the Boeing Jumbo Jet, the Lockheed Tristar or the Douglas 107? If so, why don't they fly them? Why do all international lines except Russia fly American planes? Why does no other land on earth even consider putting a man or women on the moon?

You talk about Japanese technocracy and you get radios. You talk about German technocracy and you get automobiles. You talk about American technocracy and you find men on the moon, not once, but several times ... and safely home again. You talk about scandals and the Americans put theirs right in the store window for everyone to look at. Even the draft dodgers are not pursued and hounded. They are here on our streets, most of them ... unless they are breaking Canadian laws .. are getting American dollars from Ma and Pa at home to spend here.

When the Americans get out of this bind ... as they will... who could blame them if they said 'the hell with the rest of the world'. Let someone else buy the Israel bonds, Let someone else build or repair foreign dams or design foreign buildings that won't shake apart in earthquakes.

When the railways of France, Germany and India were breaking down through age, it was the Americans who rebuilt them. When the Pennsylvania Railroad and the New York Central went broke, nobody loaned them an old caboose. Both are still broke. I can name to you 5,000 times when the Americans raced to the help of other people in trouble.

Can you name me even one time when someone else raced to the Americans in trouble? I don't think there was outside help even during the San Francisco earthquake.

Our neighbours have faced it alone and I am one Canadian who is damned tired of hearing them kicked around. They will come out of this thing with their flag high. And when they do, they are entitled to thumb their nose at the lands that are gloating over their present troubles.

I hope Canada is not one of these. But there are many smug, self-righteous Canadians. And finally, the American Red Cross was told at its 48th Annual meeting in New Orleans this morning that it was broke.

This year's disasters .. with the year less than half-over… has taken it all and nobody...but nobody... has helped.
 
Maybe the reasons why no country rushes to their aid is because they can take care of themselves???

(By the way, I'm not trying to oppose what you(he) said, just trying to find an explanation)
 
This is very good.

I've yet to hear a country offering disaster relief.

Japan was offered many when the Kobe earthquake struck, for instance.

So yes, I'm confident the US can deal with it themselves, but an offer from another country, if only as a sign of good will, wouldn't hurt anyone.

Cheers
 
Actually, as LC pointed out, Canada has sent aid money and Red Cross workers.
Someone told me France has offered money, as well, though I don't know that for sure.
 
This is simply the way of things. When a disaster strikes the US, we take care of ourselves. When disaster strikes elsewhere in the world, we take care of it also. And we dont wait to be asked, we just help. Period. Thats how Americans are. Then, usually, the response to our help for others is something of annoyance, or that we havent helped enough. We should send more money.

It would be nice if the world could extend aid to regions that need it, equally, when any catostrophic event occurs, whether it be in the"Evil" US, or any other nation. But, alas, America is hated by the rest of the world, IMO, and I see no sign of things ever changing.

So, yes indeed, we will take care of ourselves, regardless of how much, if any, help we receive from other nations. We will also continue to help any other part of the world when catastropies occur as well. Again, thats just the way this country works.

We are survivors and we will survive any disaster, whether it be fucking chcken poo assfucker terrorist, or any other natural disaster. And were not going anywhere.

*Sorry, my little rant there.
 
I wish more administrations would at least offer their help, even if symbolic.

The US governement donated 50000 USD to the Swiss governement for relief after the floods the country recently underwent.

Switzerland can handle the situation itself and needs no help. But the little gesture was a sign of friendship.

I've yet to see Switzerland do something, even symbolic.

Cheers
 
Right, I'm fed up.
There's been two waves lately on this forum. The first one, an anti-american one, which followed the world's trend, and the second one, beginning these last few days, a pro-american one. The new perfume of the month.

[span style=\'color:red\']I do very much think we could give us a little bit more credit for thinking by our own and not let the fashion of the month influence the talkings here.
Isn't there a middle state between two extremes?
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The second wave is illustrated by this article, and I don't like this article.
It was written 32 years ago in a complete different politic and economic context. I don't think it is relevant in these days context. Moreover, letting its content applies to these days situation would be disinformation as well as demagogy.

About this article, one point need to be explained.

[!--QuoteBegin--][div class=\'quotetop\']QUOTE[/div][div class=\'quotemain\'][!--QuoteEBegin--]Germany, Japan and, to a lesser extent, Britain and Italy, were lifted out of the debris of war by the Americans who poured in billions of dollars and forgave other billions in debts. None of those countries is today paying even the interest on its remaining debts to the United States.[/quote]
After the Second World War, all the europeans countries economic systems had collapsed, due to war destructions and war economy. There was a huge market opened, a huge demand. Everything was to be rebuilt, but none of these countries had enough money to do so. Hence the Marshall Plan: USA offered a loan to help the countries to rebuilt. USA and some other countries had much to sell, they needed buyers with money. As for the debt to be repaid, it became clear after a while that asking for the repayment would mean less purchases. So the debt was erased.

It's not different from what the eastern and richest developed countries did lately, erasing african's countries debts. These countries have been struggling for years, spending most of their state income in the payment not of the debt, but of the interest of the debt. Economically speaking, it was not worth it for the richest countries, who wanted a more balanced market.

As for what you're saying where_eddies_dare:
[!--QuoteBegin--][div class=\'quotetop\']QUOTE[/div][div class=\'quotemain\'][!--QuoteEBegin--]This is simply the way of things. When a disaster strikes the US, we take care of ourselves. When disaster strikes elsewhere in the world, we take care of it also. And we dont wait to be asked, we just help. Period. Thats how Americans are. Then, usually, the response to our help for others is something of annoyance, or that we havent helped enough. We should send more money.

It would be nice if the world could extend aid to regions that need it, equally, when any catostrophic event occurs, whether it be in the"Evil" US, or any other nation. But, alas, America is hated by the rest of the world, IMO, and I see no sign of things ever changing.

So, yes indeed, we will take care of ourselves, regardless of how much, if any, help we receive from other nations. We will also continue to help any other part of the world when catastropies occur as well. Again, thats just the way this country works.

We are survivors and we will survive any disaster, whether it be fucking chcken poo assfucker terrorist, or any other natural disaster. And were not going anywhere.

*Sorry, my little rant there.[/quote]
Well, I don't appreciate it very much either.
Now don't take it in the wrong way, I do think american people can be very generous.
But the way you're saying it is not very nice for the other nations here in this forum. Your rant could be summarize as "we, americans give (it's the way we are), you don't". It's a little bit rough, don't you think?
I know it's a rant, but it would be nice not to have to read so strong a statement.
 
Well, allow me a bit of patriotism anyway.
Posts like the above make me feel proud to be a Maidenfan.
(no sarcasm this time [!--emo&:)--][img src=\'style_emoticons/[#EMO_DIR#]/smile.gif\' border=\'0\' style=\'vertical-align:middle\' alt=\'smile.gif\' /][!--endemo--] )
 
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