SUVs and decisions.

Mmm...Donuts

Mmm...Donuts

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My mom recently sold our Mitsubishi Lancer, leaving our Getz and Everest. Now that she's bagging for a sports utility vehicle between the sizes of our other two cars, we've had choices between Hyundai Tucson/Santa Fe, Honda CRV, and similar stuff. My personal choice is the Chevy Captiva, and it seems practical, with 200,000 php less than the Santa Fe and still large and it's diesel. And a mini fridge! MINI FRIDGE!!! So I wanna know you other guy's thoughts on midsize SUVS that don't break budget. Thanks in advance  :ok: Please don't be afraid to turn this thread into other discussions about other cars.  :D

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Well in the Philippines it's much cheaper than petrol and has more mileage per liter. Diesel engines here don't really give much emissions though, and it's a safer choice when oil prices skyrocket day by day.
 
Hmm should have known that about the emissions. Still, I vaguely remember some disadvantages but it was a while back when I heard those.
 
Yeah apparently US still don't allow diesel in their cars. So Forostar, any experiences with cars that can help me decide? Thanks :)
 
Not much mate. I have had only one car, a bit of an oldie (Nissan Primera - 1996). I have my driving license for 3 years now. But I have quite some driving experience though. Last month I drove to Rome and I've been to Cracow (Poland) 2 times.
 
Mmm...Donuts said:
Diesel engines here don't really give much emissions
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Wrong. They do. In the Philippines like anywhere else on the planet.

What's dangerous about these emissions is that the particles emitted are smaller than those of petrol cars, and penetrate deeper in the lungs.

I just wanted to clear this up.  :smartarse:
 
Visible emissions anyway.  :bigsmile: I have a somewhat sensitive respiratory tract but as long as the smoke is negligible I'll be fine hehehe.

The initial bet was Hyundai Tucson, around 1.1 million Php, but looking at the features of the captiva with abs and other stuff, a little more wouldn't bite, it's safely within our budget anyway.
 
Mmm...Donuts said:
Visible emissions anyway. [...]as long as the smoke is negligible I'll be fine
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For comparison, I suggest that you stand unprotected next to a strong radioactive source -- gamma rays would do nicely. You won't see a thing. You won't smell a thing. You won't feel a thing -- until a bit later when your organs happily start decomposing when the DNA repair mechanisms have been overwhelmed by the extent of the damage.

With diesel, it just takes a bit longer...
 
No thanks :P But it's a small price to pay for the huge gasoline price nowadays. Getting another car with a petrol engine would just eat away at our budget. Well, at least faster than a diesel engine.
So uhh, Mav, any opinions for the SUV?
 
Mmm...Donuts said:
But it's a small price to pay for the huge gasoline price nowadays.
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Is fucking up tomorrow's world a small price for the temporary comfort of today? Think about it.

Mmm...Donuts said:
So uhh, Mav, any opinions for the SUV?
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They look good and they're very pratical if you live in the countryside.
They pollute like hell and destroy the global ecosystem, endangering all life on the planet directly or indirectly.

Conclusion: they suck.
 
Strong and viable things to think about Mav, but I'm not trying to argue at anything, just asking for a heads up in choosing cars  :)
 
My vote would go for a Toyota Prius any time. Decent price, nice shape, great hybrid engine with low pollution... and it drives almost like an F-16!

Then again, I'm no expert when it comes to cars.
 
I appreciate all opinions so don't be afraid to compare cars, thanks a lot!

And yeah to set things clear I would also love to get a hybrid engine, but it's still not a fully realized thing here.
 
How about you get one like this. Think how cool you'd look in it and how you'd get all the birds.  :P

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A Prius is the only particular car I'd be interested in, though the Chevy Volt that is supposed to debut next year has some promise as well for city driving.
 
Ok, dude, as to your original question, the Honda is the auto that I'd purchase.  It will give you less headaches over the long run than the Chevy would-- Detroit is dead, it just doesn't know it yet. 

As to the other statements here, you could wait 7 years and purchase the production model of Honda's hydrogen car.
 
Mmm...Donuts said:
Yeah apparently US still don't allow diesel in their cars.
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What??? First I've heard of this.

Diesel is extremely common in the US. It's used mostly in trucks. I don't mean just the big trucks for construction or shipping - I mean pickup trucks and the largest SUVs. The only passenger cars I've ever seen in the US that use diesel are some high-end models of Mecedes-Benz.

Based on the types of vehicles that use diesel here, I've always assumed that diesel engines generate more power for the same amount of fuel. Passenger cars simply don't need that much power.

And why would the average power-hungry American turn away from an engine type with more power?
Because diesel fuel costs more than gasoline here. That's not a recent development that came with rising gas prices - it always has cost more. About 60 cents more per gallon on average. Last time I filled my car's tank, gasoline was $3.83 per gallon and diesel was $4.45 per gallon.

Yes, my gas prices really are that low. But then again, I live about 200 yards from one of the cheapest gas stations in Denver. And it's becoming a nuisance, as people around town hear about it, and travel for miles to fill up at the corner near my house. It's getting to the point where it now takes 10 or 15 minutes of waiting in line to get the cheap gas.

But that's not as bad as the station in Florida which, a couple of days ago, offered FREE GAS to all comers as part of a promotion. Lines stretched for miles, and a few cars even ran out of gas waiting to get their free gas. I saw it on the TV news, so I don't have a web source ... Google for it if you want one.
 
Yes, a friend of mine had a gas powered V-8 Dodge truck, and got about 8mpg out of it.  He traded for the exact same truck, but with a diesel engine, and now says he gets 14-ish.  The diesel makes a great engine for trucks, cause it produces a ton of torque, but it just won't turn more than 3-4k rpms.  Oh, and don't forget about that VW Rabbit from the 80's that lots of people got diesel powered! 

SinisterMinisterX said:
But that's not as bad as the station in Florida which, a couple of days ago, offered FREE GAS to all comers as part of a promotion. Lines stretched for miles, and a few cars even ran out of gas waiting to get their free gas. I saw it on the TV news, so I don't have a web source ... Google for it if you want one.
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TV news?!?  Wow, I didn't know they even had that anymore!  :D
 
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