Steve Jobs dies
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Everything Jobs touched over the last 20 years turned to gold.
Pixar. Disney. Apple.
The iPod. The iPhone.
Mac computers.
The world was changed.
Pixar. Disney. Apple.
The iPod. The iPhone.
Mac computers.
The world was changed.
Indeed. I hope that Apple can keep the mojo rolling.
@Foro, I have to disagree. You can't 'make' people anything. He didn't make them like things, he made things people liked. That's like blaming Edison, Tesla or Bell for making the world more materialistic. He made/invented some great stuff, people loved it and ate it up.
People were already materialistic, Foro. Always have been, always will be.
What Jobs did? He gave us many things. Sure, he gave us this:
But he also gave us this:
Yes, he came up with the idea for this:
But he taught us that computers can look like this:
Every major movie, every newspaper, every piece of digital design of note of the last 10 years has been done on a Mac. You might think that Apple has been about a piece of white plastic in everyone's ears. Sure, that's part of it, because Apple created a brand and sold their brand well.
But what Apple has done is changed the way the world works. They singlehandedly changed the music industry, for example. They re-invented both portable music and music delivery. Computers? Each incarnation of Windows since XP has endeavored to look and act more like OS X. Nobody can get away with a beige box anymore. Computers are now stylish.
Perhaps that is what Apple has done more than anything else - mainstreamed computing.
And that's only what he did in the last 20 years...
What Jobs did? He gave us many things. Sure, he gave us this:
But he also gave us this:
Yes, he came up with the idea for this:
But he taught us that computers can look like this:
Every major movie, every newspaper, every piece of digital design of note of the last 10 years has been done on a Mac. You might think that Apple has been about a piece of white plastic in everyone's ears. Sure, that's part of it, because Apple created a brand and sold their brand well.
But what Apple has done is changed the way the world works. They singlehandedly changed the music industry, for example. They re-invented both portable music and music delivery. Computers? Each incarnation of Windows since XP has endeavored to look and act more like OS X. Nobody can get away with a beige box anymore. Computers are now stylish.
Perhaps that is what Apple has done more than anything else - mainstreamed computing.
And that's only what he did in the last 20 years...
Forostar
Ancient Mariner
I am very happy to live my life without his distracting products and I am proud to say that I have never bought any of these while he was alive.
Apart from a Cars DVD, bought for my son (though that was developed, years after he left).
As you can already derive from my previous post: I am not that materialistic, and that's why I don't care as much as others.
I like at least 1000 older films better than the stuff from the last 10 years.
They did well indeed. It's become a hype.
I admit that's true. But not mine.
The real content of a film is the script, the direction and the acting, not the special effects made with a computer.
I prefer to get my music old school (CD's, LP's). Right now I am staring at a beige box. Why? Well, it still works.
It's not that I am not buying these products because I want to resist this mass consumption. The real reason is that I am a very pure person who likes authentic things and who cares about content, and not so much about looks. So the real content (and the spirit!) of a song is the music, not the carrier.
People nowadays don't seem to care about what's inside the carrier that much. They care more about the carrier itself.
Compared to the things Bell, Tesla and Edison made, Jobs' products were more superficial and luxurious (and substitutes).
Apart from a Cars DVD, bought for my son (though that was developed, years after he left).
LooseCannon said:
As you can already derive from my previous post: I am not that materialistic, and that's why I don't care as much as others.
LooseCannon said:
I like at least 1000 older films better than the stuff from the last 10 years.
LooseCannon said:
They did well indeed. It's become a hype.
LooseCannon said:
I admit that's true. But not mine.
LooseCannon said:
The real content of a film is the script, the direction and the acting, not the special effects made with a computer.
I prefer to get my music old school (CD's, LP's). Right now I am staring at a beige box. Why? Well, it still works.
It's not that I am not buying these products because I want to resist this mass consumption. The real reason is that I am a very pure person who likes authentic things and who cares about content, and not so much about looks. So the real content (and the spirit!) of a song is the music, not the carrier.
People nowadays don't seem to care about what's inside the carrier that much. They care more about the carrier itself.
Compared to the things Bell, Tesla and Edison made, Jobs' products were more superficial and luxurious (and substitutes).
Yax
Ancient Mariner
I've grown to appreciate Apple's computers more and more.
First off, the laptops are durable. Expensive as shit, but great build quality and you can drop them on the floor and they will still work (literally). The server for my school's booking system (where you book gear, the studio/different control rooms etc) is a Mac. It's been running for 10 years - Same computer. On the other hand, the school's had to replace a large number of PC's. Secondly, while Apple's monitors are expensive as shiiiiiiiiit (I talked to the school's technician about this while he helped soldering my bass today. I asked him why they bought those damn expensive Apple monitors), they are of excellent quality and will last for a decade, without too much detoriation - That is important for video and image processing (the school also teaches Video production, movies and tv and stuff).
Secondly: While my home system is PC-based, Mac's are generally superior in music production because they seem to work better with third part software and hardware (Not perfect, mind you. But that depends on the quality of the third part hard/software).
Logic, is one of the best DAW's in the business (and is of Apple's own making) and is along with Pro Tools the most commonly used in professional setups - And when it comes to the actual computer, Mac's are the way to go.
Basically, Mac's are expensive as shit, but you get great build quality.
Edit: On the other hand, I regret that I purchased my iPod, and only uses it as an external harddrive. I prefer Android phones over iPhones (although you can get Amplitube for the iPhone so that you can play your guitar through the phone, with an IK Multimedia interface).
First off, the laptops are durable. Expensive as shit, but great build quality and you can drop them on the floor and they will still work (literally). The server for my school's booking system (where you book gear, the studio/different control rooms etc) is a Mac. It's been running for 10 years - Same computer. On the other hand, the school's had to replace a large number of PC's. Secondly, while Apple's monitors are expensive as shiiiiiiiiit (I talked to the school's technician about this while he helped soldering my bass today. I asked him why they bought those damn expensive Apple monitors), they are of excellent quality and will last for a decade, without too much detoriation - That is important for video and image processing (the school also teaches Video production, movies and tv and stuff).
Secondly: While my home system is PC-based, Mac's are generally superior in music production because they seem to work better with third part software and hardware (Not perfect, mind you. But that depends on the quality of the third part hard/software).
Logic, is one of the best DAW's in the business (and is of Apple's own making) and is along with Pro Tools the most commonly used in professional setups - And when it comes to the actual computer, Mac's are the way to go.
Basically, Mac's are expensive as shit, but you get great build quality.
Edit: On the other hand, I regret that I purchased my iPod, and only uses it as an external harddrive. I prefer Android phones over iPhones (although you can get Amplitube for the iPhone so that you can play your guitar through the phone, with an IK Multimedia interface).
bearfan
Ancient Mariner
Jobs was not so much an inventor, but a brilliant marketer/UI designer. Even if you do not own an Apple product (like me), there is no doubt other products have been influenced by this design. Not just electronics, but housewares, cars, etc ... all trying to capture the ease of use/design/"hipness" that is the IPod/Ipad/IPhone.
Personally, I prefer my Droid to an IPhone, but recognize that the Droid exists in part due to the IPhone and on and on.
They guy was a genius at giving the world what it wanted (or made it want what Apple made), in any case Jobs deserves to go down as one of the all time great technologists.
Personally, I prefer my Droid to an IPhone, but recognize that the Droid exists in part due to the IPhone and on and on.
They guy was a genius at giving the world what it wanted (or made it want what Apple made), in any case Jobs deserves to go down as one of the all time great technologists.
Forostar said:
You're awful young to be such an old man, mate
People do care about what's inside. Yes, the carrier is a fashion statement. But the carrier has always been a fashion statement. Walkmen were the SHIT back in the 1980s. Turntable brands were important in the 1960s. There's a name brand for everything.Yes, perhaps Jobs made products that are luxuries compared to what Bell, Tesla, and Edison created. But the concepts Apple has pushed - the digital life that has been created - has altered everything. The Internet under the era of Jobs has changed the way that the world works significantly. Much more is digital and works together. It's telecommunications, my friend. Telecommunications is different because of him. Always, this has been a first world sort of thing.
Job's most lasting legacy will probably be the way he led the charge in uniting phones and internet. Like LC said, telecommunications ... and isn't that the same area Bell revolutionized, Foro? 
Forostar
Ancient Mariner
I guess I am indeed an old man, sorry guys. 
Indeed, I was also crazy about the carrier I got in 1984: the walkman! I could listen to my own music without being stuck to a stereo set! That was revolutionary for sure because it wasn't possible before that came out.
Bell is credited as the inventor of the first practical telephone. About 8-9 pioneers were busy with this item before him so he indeed made something better. However: the other people hadn't made the phone ready for a large market, opposed to the walkman.
Jobs sure was a genius. I had fun watching his promotion films. Especially the old ones.
Indeed, I was also crazy about the carrier I got in 1984: the walkman! I could listen to my own music without being stuck to a stereo set! That was revolutionary for sure because it wasn't possible before that came out.
Bell is credited as the inventor of the first practical telephone. About 8-9 pioneers were busy with this item before him so he indeed made something better. However: the other people hadn't made the phone ready for a large market, opposed to the walkman.
Jobs sure was a genius. I had fun watching his promotion films. Especially the old ones.
Black Thunder
Ancient Mariner
R.I.P. Steve Jobs.
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I simply can't believe all the bullshit that's been going on since this man died. It's wrong about almost everything. He wasn't a innovator or a revolutionary. He simply done some things right; which others tried before, and failed because of their wrong assumptions. The market changed significantly when he introduced "iDevices", time will tell if that impact is more positive or negative.
I know far too much on this subject to discuss it properly.
I know far too much on this subject to discuss it properly.