So much for Nicko remaining a member of the band

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Blaze isn't the last member to be terminated from the band then.

An example of PR stuff that ex-members can do:


But i'm not sure that Nicko would like to play the role of some "grandpa influencer" for his former band.
 
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TheTalisman said:
Blaze isn't the last member to be terminated from the band then.

An example of PR stuff that ex-members can do:


But i'm not sure that Nicko would like to play the role of some "grandpa influencer" for his former band.
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In this type of content, Metallica is well ahead of Iron Maiden (an absurd distance).
 
This is more about being on the board and being involved in financial matters. He can still be part of the band technically (as in play and/or record with them), without being involved with Iron Maiden LLP.

But maybe it's time for folks to accept that Simon wasn't chosen for a single year; he's the new drummer of Maiden ;)
 
That’s yet to be seen. They could still easily swap him out for the next project if he’s crap in the studio. Wouldn’t be a good look but they’d spin it as conflicts with existing projects or some other nonsense. They’ve yet to do a single publicity photo with him.
 
BludBrutha said:
That’s yet to be seen. They could still easily swap him out for the next project if he’s crap in the studio. Wouldn’t be a good look but they’d spin it as conflicts with existing projects or some other nonsense. They’ve yet to do a single publicity photo with him.
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You're setting yourself up for disappointment. Simon was prominently featured and even got to talk in the tour recap video. The video where only the other band members talked. He's here to stay ;)

Furthermore, it is very clear that everyone enjoys playing with him and that he revitalized the band. And being crap in the studio? Have you heard any of his recorded albums? Especially the non-British Lion stuff, where he busts out the double bass? The man is a professional.

They love Nicko of course, but doubting that Simon is clearly a permanent band member is just comical at this point and borders on pure contrarianism.

Edit: You are talking about Simon and not Nicko, right? Otherwise you can ignore this comment lol
 
I love nicko - I grow up with his playing in my headphones almost 24/7 but also - Simon is very good drummer and I can live with him being band member. Given his playing style there is chance for album focused more on short songs :-D

Either way - we all know that maiden is a company and that is how they deal with stuff behind the scenes. Rest is just PR.
 
Being a band member and standing on stage / in the studio playing with the band can be two completely different things.
Look at Megadeth for example. They have a fix line up, yet the only band member is Dave Mustaine. Everyone else is hired for a loan by the Megadeth company.
So this termination is affecting his status in the band in terms of royalties, decisions and shareholdings. It does not say anything in terms of his future involvement as a player. If you have someone who is not able to do a full tour and unsure about recording an album, terminating the full membership is the perfect sensible and professional way to go.
I doubt he will be involved, though.
Vaenyr said:
Furthermore, it is very clear that everyone enjoys playing with him and that he revitalized the band. And being crap in the studio? Have you heard any of his recorded albums? Especially the non-British Lion stuff, where he busts out the double bass? The man is a professional.
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Considering the possibilities of heavy editing/sequencing/processing in the studio especially on those super professional albums, I'd say these recordings don't prove that much - live on stage is where one proves his prowess and ability. Just generally speaking.
As far as Simon goes, let's put it this way: Nicko will be missed on a new album, but if the next studio albums sucks, it won't be because of the drumming.
 
I have no problem with Simon at all btw. I’m just thinking of a myriad of bands that have “the band” and then one or more touring members backing them up.

The Rolling Stones are officially three people now, despite all the others onstage. The last Sabbath tour it was three members with a backup drummer, (who incidentally didn’t play on the album that tour was in support of, that was yet another supporting drummer but they didn’t want him to do the tour).

Stuart Smith replaced Don Felder on lead guitar twenty plus years ago but he’s not an Eagle and has never been in any band photos.

For a band so late in the game there’s no way they made Simon a full profit sharing member for instance, that would be absurd. He’s gonna be on salary and at this early stage there’s no way they would have signed anything with him beyond doing this first tour.

If he pisses anyone off they’d swap him out in a heartbeat.
 
BludBrutha said:
They could still easily swap him out for the next project if he’s crap in the studio.
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He won't be crap in the studio - he's done two (or at least one and a bit) albums with British Lion: they know what they're getting.

I think that the "one year" initial period was probably meant to be a two-way trial because, you know, Simon could have decided that playing massive arena shows wasn't actually his thing? It's not only about what Maiden think/want.

I think that there were probably two sides to Bruce's original phrasing: softening the blow and also a "once Maiden family, always Maiden family" kind of statement, because it's not like they were ever going to just cut him adrift and act like he was never there. Nicko himself, to the best of my knowledge, has not phrased it any other how than simply that he left the band.

Terminating his membership of the LLP is a purely business action, the effect of which is that he no longer bears any business or financial responsibility for the LLP. I expect that we'll also see that they've paid him back the £1M they owed him last year, when they file the 2025 accounts.

Anyway, why do you all want to keep Nicko pinioned to Maiden? He's got things to do as well, you know ...
 
onurb said:
That note on the website was so heartless that I wouldn't be surprised if Nicko never gets involved in anything related to Iron Maiden again. It's just the Steve Harris/Rod Smallwood way of managing the band.
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Which one? The one that said "Nicko, we all love you too!"? The one that said "Thank you for being an irrepressible force behind the drum kit for 42 years and my friend even longer", "You are deserving of all the accolades I'm sure these fans will give you", "the band and I all have a thousand great memories of the past 42 years" etc etc?

What about the send-off Nicko got on stage at his final show? And are you assuming that they simply finished Nicko's final show and kicked him to the kerb without ever speaking with him again? Nicko's departure all seemed very amicable and respectful, I don't know why there's any reason to view it as anything else.
 
Dick Brucinson said:
Now that I saw two Maiden shows with SImon on drums, I must say I don't miss Nicko THAT much.
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100% agree. No disrespect to Nicko at all, I certainly noticed the differences in Simon and Nicko's playing and would say Nicko is a more competent drummer (not that I'm a big authority on drums anyway), but I never felt there was anything "missing" from the show at all.
 
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