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[a href=\'http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=46178\' target=\'_blank\']This[/a] is certainly not part of the masterplan of [span style=\'color:purple\']The Platypus[/span].

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[!--QuoteBegin--][div class=\'quotetop\']QUOTE[/div][div class=\'quotemain\'][!--QuoteEBegin--]While most religious authorities seem to agree one cannot discern the intentions of God, there has been talk in some circles here and on the Internet that the storm that turned parts of the Gulf Coast into a disaster zone, prompting hundreds of thousands to evacuate their homes and possibly causing upwards of 10,000 deaths, was thrust upon the U.S. for its support of the Gaza evacuation.[/quote]

The evidence:

[!--QuoteBegin--][div class=\'quotetop\']QUOTE[/div][div class=\'quotemain\'][!--QuoteEBegin--]    * Close to 10,000 Jews were expelled from their homes in the Gaza Strip and parts of northern Samaria. Katrina's death toll is now expected to reach at least 10,000.

    * America's population ratio to Israel is about 50:1. Ten thousand Jews who lost their Gaza homes is the equivalent of about 500,000 Americans who are now reported to be displaced as result of Katrina.

    * Gaza's Jewish communities were located in Israel's southern coastal region; America's southern coastal region now lies in ruins.

    * The U.S. government called on Louisiana residents to evacuate their homes ahead of the storm. The Israeli government, backed by statements from U.S. officials, demanded Gaza residents evacuate their homes.

    * Katrina, written in Hebrew, has a numerical equivalent of 374, according to a biblical numbering system upheld by all traditional Jewish authorities. Two relevant passages in the Torah share the exact numerical equivalent: "They have done you evil" (Gen. 50:17) and "The sea upon land" (Exodus 14:15).

    * Bush, from Texas, and Rice, from Alabama, were the most vocal U.S. backers of the Gaza evacuation. Hurricane Katrina hit the states in between Texas and Alabama – Louisiana and Mississippi.

    * Similarity in scenes: Many residents of Jewish Gaza climbed to their rooftops to escape the threat of expulsion, while residents of the Gulf Coast climbed on their own rooftops to protect themselves from the rising waters. Jewish Gaza homes described as beautiful and charming were demolished this week by Israel's military. Once beautiful homes in New Orleans now lie in ruins.

    * The day Katrina hit, Israel began carrying out what was termed the most controversial aspect of the Gaza withdrawal – the uprooting of bodies from the area's Jewish cemetery. There have been media reports of corpses floating around in flooded New Orleans regions.

    * Citizens of Israel were barred from entering Gush Katif; people were only allowed to leave Jewish Gaza. As Katrina was making landfall U.S. authorities barred citizens from entering the affected areas. People were only allowed out.

    * Gush Katif was an important agricultural area for Israel, providing the Jewish state with 70 percent of its produce. A New Orleans port that exported much of the Midwest's agricultural production was destroyed by Katrina.[/quote]

The credibility:

They said God exists.


We're doomed.
 
THese are justpeople with to much time on their hand, ttrying to proove something absolutely imposible to prove with the technology today... [!--emo&-_---][img src=\'style_emoticons/[#EMO_DIR#]/sleep.gif\' border=\'0\' style=\'vertical-align:middle\' alt=\'sleep.gif\' /][!--endemo--]
 
It's just a LOT of coincidence, nothing to get excited about....
 
If God was really pissed, he'd probably have killed some Yanks for every Iraqi killed.

And besides, most of the deaths aren't caused by the hurricane, but by the Americans in NOLA.
 
[!--QuoteBegin-LooseCannon+Sep 8 2005, 02:44 PM--][div class=\'quotetop\']QUOTE(LooseCannon @ Sep 8 2005, 02:44 PM)[/div][div class=\'quotemain\'][!--QuoteEBegin--]And besides, most of the deaths aren't caused by the hurricane, but by the Americans in NOLA.
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The verdict is still out on that one. It may be true now (i.e. known bodies), but we don't know how many corpses are still in the floodwaters.
 
I'm not saying I believe any of this for a second, but why does everyone consider the notion of the existence of God so ridiculous?
 
LC, the point here is that God would be pissed of about the Gaza Strip Evacuation. After all, hte Jews are suposed to be the Chosen People, remember? Duke, I find the existence of God as they know it as very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very improbable. Until further SCIENTIFIC proof, I will not say God exists or not.
 
Katrina, written in Hebrew, has a numerical equivalent of 374, according to a biblical numbering system upheld by all traditional Jewish authorities. Two relevant passages in the Torah share the exact numerical equivalent: "They have done you evil" (Gen. 50:17) and "The sea upon land" (Exodus 14:15).

The thing with Hebrew script is, it has only consonants, and in the old Hebrew the letters are used as numerals as well. So one sequence of characters can be read in many ways. That means, this is just a coincidence and there are hundreds of others like this.

And I'm sure someone smarter than me could analyse the other "arguments" like this too.
 
And I'm sure someone smarter than me could analyse the other "arguments" like this too.
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You challenged me [!--emo&:P--][img src=\'style_emoticons/[#EMO_DIR#]/tongue.gif\' border=\'0\' style=\'vertical-align:middle\' alt=\'tongue.gif\' /][!--endemo--]

* Close to 10,000 Jews were expelled from their homes in the Gaza Strip and parts of northern Samaria. Katrina's death toll is now expected to reach at least 10,000.

10,000 is a rough estimation. Those expelled in Gaza could well be 9,786 while those in New Orleans may be 13,455. That's a big difference. Unless it turns out to be 6,666, we can not find any proof there.

* America's population ratio to Israel is about 50:1. Ten thousand Jews who lost their Gaza homes is the equivalent of about 500,000 Americans who are now reported to be displaced as result of Katrina.
Yet again an estimation. Population ratio means nothing and is virtually pointless when it comes to statistics. What about the minorities in the US? What about the minorities in Israel? Not every person living in Israel is a Jew, and not everyone in the US is an "American".

* Gaza's Jewish communities were located in Israel's southern coastal region; America's southern coastal region now lies in ruins.

Bull. The Gaza strip has never been formally part of Israel. Besides, Israels southern coastal region is made up by Eilat, not by Gaza. If we're taking Gaza to be the Israeli southern coast region, we'd have to consider Puerto Rico, Guam and Hawai'i to be the US southern coast region, and they are doing just fine at the moment.

* Bush, from Texas, and Rice, from Alabama, were the most vocal U.S. backers of the Gaza evacuation. Hurricane Katrina hit the states in between Texas and Alabama – Louisiana and Mississippi.

Bull again. Bush may have been governour of Texas, but he is originally from New England. Apart from Duke's recent visit to that region, it is just fine as well.

* Similarity in scenes: Many residents of Jewish Gaza climbed to their rooftops to escape the threat of expulsion, while residents of the Gulf Coast climbed on their own rooftops to protect themselves from the rising waters. Jewish Gaza homes described as beautiful and charming were demolished this week by Israel's military. Once beautiful homes in New Orleans now lie in ruins.

Oh my. I see people on rooftops every day. I guess Central Franconia is hit by the wrath of God too.
And, apparently, now there is a universal definition of what is beautiful and what not.

* The day Katrina hit, Israel began carrying out what was termed the most controversial aspect of the Gaza withdrawal – the uprooting of bodies from the area's Jewish cemetery. There have been media reports of corpses floating around in flooded New Orleans regions.

Dead people lying on the streets of African cities is God's punishment for what?

* Citizens of Israel were barred from entering Gush Katif; people were only allowed to leave Jewish Gaza. As Katrina was making landfall U.S. authorities barred citizens from entering the affected areas. People were only allowed out.

Like any sane government would let people into disaster areas...

* Gush Katif was an important agricultural area for Israel, providing the Jewish state with 70 percent of its produce. A New Orleans port that exported much of the Midwest's agricultural production was destroyed by Katrina.

70% is a clear number. "Much" isn't. "Much" can be 5%. Apart from that, Gush Katif produced goods for Israel. New Orleans exported superfluous produce for other countries. It's like comparing an apple tree to a truck transporting apples.


BTW, I don't think I'm smarter than charlotte (or anyone else on this BB)... just more smartass [!--emo&:P--][img src=\'style_emoticons/[#EMO_DIR#]/tongue.gif\' border=\'0\' style=\'vertical-align:middle\' alt=\'tongue.gif\' /][!--endemo--]
 
[!--QuoteBegin--][div class=\'quotetop\']QUOTE[/div][div class=\'quotemain\'][!--QuoteEBegin--]Bull again. Bush may have been governour of Texas, but he is originally from New England. Apart from Duke's recent visit to that region, it is just fine as well.[/quote]

hehehe....they still haven't recovered from me!

Though I must poke at you a bit on this one, Per. It's true that President Bush was born in Connecticut, but he lived most of his life as a Texan, especially his early 'formative' years. In America, where you're 'from' (in this sense) is not always where you were born. Saying President Bush isn't a Texan would be like saying John A Macdonald wasn't Canadian. (I hope that's not too obscure an analogy)
 
[!--QuoteBegin-IronDuke+Sep 9 2005, 11:22 AM--][div class=\'quotetop\']QUOTE(IronDuke @ Sep 9 2005, 11:22 AM)[/div][div class=\'quotemain\'][!--QuoteEBegin--]Though I must poke at you a bit on this one, Per. It's true that President Bush was born in Connecticut, but he lived most of his life as a Texan, especially his early 'formative' years. In America, where you're 'from' (in this sense) is not always where you were born. Saying President Bush isn't a Texan would be like saying John A Macdonald wasn't Canadian. (I hope that's not too obscure an analogy)
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Of course I agree with you there, Duke. I was born in Bavaria, yet I'd go to hell before considering myself a Bavarian... or even a "true" German. I just didn't find anything else to reply to that argument.
 
[!--QuoteBegin-IronDuke+Sep 9 2005, 05:22 AM--][div class=\'quotetop\']QUOTE(IronDuke @ Sep 9 2005, 05:22 AM)[/div][div class=\'quotemain\'][!--QuoteEBegin--]Though I must poke at you a bit on this one, Per. It's true that President Bush was born in Connecticut, but he lived most of his life as a Texan, especially his early 'formative' years. In America, where you're 'from' (in this sense) is not always where you were born. Saying President Bush isn't a Texan would be like saying John A Macdonald wasn't Canadian. (I hope that's not too obscure an analogy)
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Perfectly true. It would be accurate to say the the Bush family in general is from New England; their roots in Connecticut go back several generations. But George W. Bush spent the majority of his adult life in Texas.

Now it only he had stayed there. [!--emo&:(--][img src=\'style_emoticons/[#EMO_DIR#]/sad.gif\' border=\'0\' style=\'vertical-align:middle\' alt=\'sad.gif\' /][!--endemo--]

I don't think this sense of where a person is 'from' is limited to America. I know one fellow who, if asked where he is from, would answer Switzerland - despite this person having grown up in France, and having lived in England long enough to pick up a Cockney accent. I think 'where you're from' is a matter of where a person feels most at home. For example, even though I've lived in Denver for almost 8 years, it wasn't until I bought a house here that this town really felt like home. Until then, I would have said I was from Wisconsin.
 
[!--QuoteBegin-SinisterMinisterX+Sep 9 2005, 01:10 PM--][div class=\'quotetop\']QUOTE(SinisterMinisterX @ Sep 9 2005, 01:10 PM)[/div][div class=\'quotemain\'][!--QuoteEBegin--] I know one fellow who, if asked where he is from, would answer Switzerland - despite this person having grown up in France, and having lived in England long enough to pick up a Cockney accent.
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That person sounds like a complete dumbass. [!--emo&:P--][img src=\'style_emoticons/[#EMO_DIR#]/tongue.gif\' border=\'0\' style=\'vertical-align:middle\' alt=\'tongue.gif\' /][!--endemo--]
 
[!--QuoteBegin-IronDuke+Sep 9 2005, 07:03 PM--][div class=\'quotetop\']QUOTE(IronDuke @ Sep 9 2005, 07:03 PM)[/div][div class=\'quotemain\'][!--QuoteEBegin--]That person sounds like a complete dumbass. [!--emo&:P--][img src=\'style_emoticons/[#EMO_DIR#]/tongue.gif\' border=\'0\' style=\'vertical-align:middle\' alt=\'tongue.gif\' /][!--endemo--]
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Too f'kin' right, mate! [!--emo&:D--][img src=\'style_emoticons/[#EMO_DIR#]/biggrin.gif\' border=\'0\' style=\'vertical-align:middle\' alt=\'biggrin.gif\' /][!--endemo--]
 
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