Pot legal...sorta

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Wästed The Great

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I'd posted in here a year or so back, about the pot vending machines in California.  I know that at the time, state laws differed from Federal law, and even if it was legal to be using pot 'medicinally', the Feds could still nab you for it. 

Shocking response, but now, the Feds have decided it is a waste of tax payers dollars to bust marijuana users that have obtained it legaly for medicinal use in the 14 states that allow it.

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Interesting that they have finally decided to let the States have their say, vs the Fed (the Feds don't like to give up their power.  Is it like that for the EU, a sort of power struggle between the member nations and the EU council [or whatever they are-- i'm not sure])?
 
I'm all for it. Weed prohibition and penalties are directly attacking both common sense and human liberty.
 
Wasted CLV said:
Interesting that they have finally decided to let the States have their say, vs the Fed (the Feds don't like to give up their power.  Is it like that for the EU, a sort of power struggle between the member nations and the EU council (or whatever they are-- i'm not sure)?
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Two open, one close ... you left one open! CLOSE THAT PARENTHESIS! :P

Oh, about the topic ... not really news. It's the formalization of a policy change that was announced 6 months ago. Still good, though.
 
Ah, sorry-- fixed it (I think).

Anyway, I hadn't heard anything about it until this.  Though, it isn't surprising.
 
Zare said:
I'm all for it. Weed prohibition and penalties are directly attacking both common sense and human liberty.
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Are they? In what way?

I know a lot of weed smokers, and in each case I think they'd be better off if they didn't do it.
 
It's all on individual basis and also depends on a lot of factors, i know a lot of people with positive effects, me included.

Alcohol is perfectly legal, yet it's one of the deadliest substances around.
 
Zare said:
It's all on individual basis
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I tend to disagree. As I said, I know many people who smoke this crap and all are completely fucked up. Sure, you and your friends may be an exception, but then, one's own view on themselves is not always objective. I'm not going to enter a pro/anti weed discussion because quite frankly, I simply don't care for the subject (it's not my problem if people destroy themselves), but there is no way you can have me believe it has positive effects.

Alcohol is perfectly legal, yet it's one of the deadliest substances around.
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True, but not everyone who drinks alcohol gets fucked up. There is more to alcohol abuse and alcoholism than the substance itself. That may also be true for weed, but most weed addicts I have seen don't have the problems most alcoholics I have seen do.
 
I know a lot of people who function fine while high, or who are smart enough to reserve their pot smoking for recreational activities.  That's fine by me.  I know the sorts of addicts Perun is talking about as well, and they are less useful.  In the end, though, this is about not arresting people for partaking in a doctor-certified medical procedure.  That's a good thing.
 
LooseCannon said:
I know a lot of people who function fine while high, or who are smart enough to reserve their pot smoking for recreational activities.  That's fine by me.  I know the sorts of addicts Perun is talking about as well, and they are less useful.  In the end, though, this is about not arresting people for partaking in a doctor-certified medical procedure.  That's a good thing.
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That puts my stance on the issue in a nutshell.

@Perun: And while you can develop a psychological addiction to weed (you can to almost anything), I wasn't aware that you could physically become addicted to weed. But of course I might be wrong about that.
 
Wasted CLV said:
Ah, sorry-- fixed it (I think).

Anyway, I hadn't heard anything about it until this.  Though, it isn't surprising.
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Good job on the punctuation. :bigsmile:

The original announcement was back somewhere around March. There was a big raid on dispensaries in CA by the Feds, and a resulting outcry from the medical pot advocates. So that's when the policy change was announced by Atty Gen'l Holder, which also fulfilled an Obama campaign promise.

This news is just that the new rules are being put in the official rulebook, so to speak. The policy itself has been in force for the last 6 months already.
 
This is the difference between a liberal Obama administration and a conservative crazy Bush administration. 

One issue I haven't heard raised in the pot legalization debate is that, with the advent of medical marijuana, pot is a LOT stronger these days than it was when I was a kid.  I used to be able to function pretty well in college when high, but the stuff going around now will fuck...you...up.  Much stronger than alcohol. 
 
The people who smoke(d) weed I have known became addicted, lazy, and in some cases it affected their concentration, or even memory.
 
Those would be the addicts; I know several pot smokers who function fine.  I know several who don't as well.
 
A lot of weed smokers easily become addicted. I guess it also depends on the access. The easier to get it, the easier to do it.
 
Hmm. Access is very easy, at least here. I know several places where you are definite to find dealers from daybreak to sunset.
 
I heard from a reliable source that Samuel Taylor Coleridge was high on marijuana when he wrote The Rime of the Ancient Mariner. I doubt 'Arry was when he wrote his version, though.
 
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