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Forostar

Ancient Mariner
Tolkien novel 90 years after conception
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By Jonathan Thompson


The first new Tolkien novel in 30 years will be published next month.

In a move eagerly awaited by millions of fans, The Children of Hurin will be released worldwide on April 17, 89 years after the author started the work and four years after the final cinematic instalment of the Lord of the Rings trilogy, one of the biggest box office successes in history.

The book, whose contents are being jealously guarded by publisher HarperCollins, is described as "an epic story of adventure, tragedy, fellowship and heroism".

It is likely to be a publishing sensation, particularly as it is illustrated by veteran Middle-earth artist Alan Lee, who won an Oscar for art direction on Peter Jackson's third film, The Return of The King.

Lee provided 25 pencil sketches and eight paintings for the first edition of the book.

Tolkien experts are already tipping The Children of Hurin - which features significant battle scenes and at least one big twist - for big-budget Hollywood treatment. Box-office takings from the Lord of the Rings trilogy to date are $4 billion or more.


Chris Crawshaw, chairman of the Tolkien Society, said: "It would probably make a very good movie, if anyone can secure the film rights.

"Tolkien saw his work as one long history of Middle-earth: from the beginning of creation to the end of the Third Age. The Children of Hurin is an early chapter in that bigger story."

Christopher Tolkien, using his late father's voluminous notes, has painstakingly completed the book, left unfinished by the author when he died in 1971.

The work has taken the best part of three decades, and will signify the first "new" Tolkien book since The Silmarillion was published posthumously in 1977.

"It will be interesting to see how it stands up today alongside all the Tolkien-like literature that we've become familiar with," said David Bradley, editor of SFX magazine.

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Forostar said:
four years after the final cinematic instalment of the Lord of the Rings trilogy, one of the biggest box office successes in history.

Has that been four years already?  :blink:
 
This may be quite interesting - the tale of Hurin is one of the best in his early works, and is quite reminiscent of some of the Norse/Celtic tales with regards its long list of misfortunes.  I was fairly sure that Tolkien was working on a poetic version of this before he died, and that would be much better than a novel, but I'll probably look into this anyway...C. Tolkien did a great job on editing the Silmarillion and some of the Histories of Middle Earth, so it'll be interesting to see how he interperets his father's work.
 
I agree with Raven. Hopefully this will actually be something that's worth publishing after cashing in on first drafts of Lord of the Rings chapters and all too extensive commentaries and footnotes.

By the way, there's a quite long version of this story in Unfinished Tales. I wonder if any material will be lifted from that.
 
I'm sure Little Tolkien was working on this before Jackson decided to make the LOTR trilogy, with that in mind I'm sure it is a sound and honest literary venture, instead of a cashcow of HarperCollins
 
Christopher worked THIRTY years on his fathers notes for this next book. I am not pessimistic about it. :)
 
Shadow said:
By the way, there's a quite long version of this story in Unfinished Tales. I wonder if any material will be lifted from that.

There are several existing versions of this story. I haven't read the Unfinished Tales version, but I have read three others:
1. The version from The Book Of Lost Tales (which I think is the earliest version).
2. The long poem version from The Lays Of Beleriand. This is likely not the same poem Raven was alluding to, as Tolkien wrote it when young and abandoned it not much later.
3. The version from The Silmarillion. However, I don't know how much of that was JRR, and how much was his son.

So many Tolkien fans are already aware of the basic plot line. Therefore, the main interest for me is what the big twist could be. The story (as released so far) already has several big twists - is there something new?

I'd love to see a movie version of this story. After LOTR and the story of Beren and Luthien, this is Tolkien's best work.
 
It's easily my favourite tale among his early works.

I have read all the ones you mentioned except the long poem version, plus the one in Unfinished Tales, which (I think) is the longest version available to date. In Christopher Tolkien's foreword, it is referred to as the "long version" of the story (the Silmarillion version being the "short" one), with no mention of a second longer tale, and he writes about having difficulties piecing it together from notes. Indeed, a large section is missing from this version (the part describing Turin's stay in Nargothrond), and although fragments of it appear in the appendix, Christopher writes that no continous longer version exists.

Of course, he might have been saving material for this upcoming book, but that's what makes me wonder how much material there's left for this story. Is it an extended version of the Unfinished Tales text, is it glued together from various published and unpublished material or is it a completely new version? It's not that I would mind re-reading it in any shape (I'll probably get this book), I'm just wondering.

While Tolkien may have some surprise in store for us, I'd guess the article refers to an already known plot twist.
 
Check out the cover and a few more interesting notes I just found!

:)

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Professor Tolkien’s son Christopher Tolkien, who has edited and collected most of Tolkien’s posthumous writings, has spent the last thirty years finishing his father’s incomplete tale of Turin Turambar and the other offspring of Hurin of the house of Hador.

The “Lay of the Children of Hurin” was one of the three “great” tales of the First Age of Middle Earth – along with the tales of “Beren & Luthien” and “Tuor and the Downfall of Gondolin” - which Tolkien first began work on in 1918 and never completely finished.

Nonetheless, The Children of Hurin was the most complete manuscript of that bunch, and Christopher Tolkien has set himself to finishing what his father had begun.

The text will likely seem familiar to readers of some of Tolkien’s other posthumously published books, especially The Silmarillion, Unfinished Tales, and The Lays of Beleriand.

Fragments of story and verse have appeared in each of these publications, in greater or lesser degrees of completeness and detail. The most complete of these tales was the “Narn I Hin Hurin”, an 80+ page rendering of the tale in Unfinished Tales.

The Children of Hurin will give a complete account of the tales of Tolkien’s tragic hero, Turin Turambar, his sister Nienor, and the rest of his cursed family.

For another, Turin’s tale is a very sad one full of misfortunes and travails. Turin’s father, Hurin, is captured by Morgoth, the Dark Lord, in the Nirnaeth Arnoediad. When he will not give Morgoth the information he demands, Morgoth sets a curse upon his bloodline. Thus, though Turin is a great warrior and of the bloodline of great heroes, everything he does turns to ill.

Many scholars have noted the similarities between the tales of Turin and his misfortunes and the Kalevala of Finnish myth, a tale that Tolkien was intimately familiar with.

Christopher Tolkien’s role in the completion of this new novel is stated to be of an editorial nature only. According to an interview with Christopher Tolkien’s son Adam at dor-lomin.org :

“‘The Children of Hurin’ is entirely in the author’s words – apart from some very minor reworkings of a grammatical and stylistic nature”
 
Actually, given my recollections of the tales from the Silmarillion, I am very excited about a film version of this story.  In my mind, Tolkien's best works are his early ones, which he attempted to finish after the publication of Lord of the Rings; the fantastic blend of Norse, Finnish and Celtic mythology is beautiful to behold, and it's hard to imagine that it's all the work of one man.  Good stuff. :ok:
 
Thanks for the update, Forostar! I for one is getting excited about this one!

I'd voice a few concerns over a film version of any of Tolkien's early tales, I'm not sure they would transfer very well to the screen given their very epic, much less earthbound than The Lord of the Rings nature. They'd need a better director than Peter Jackson to pull it off.
 
Shadow said:
Thanks for the update, Forostar! I for one is getting excited about this one!

I'd voice a few concerns over a film version of any of Tolkien's early tales, I'm not sure they would transfer very well to the screen given their very epic, much less earthbound than The Lord of the Rings nature. They'd need a better director than Peter Jackson to pull it off.

Plus, none of those fucking hairy midgets. :innocent:
 
Shadow said:
I'd voice a few concerns over a film version of any of Tolkien's early tales, I'm not sure they would transfer very well to the screen given their very epic, much less earthbound than The Lord of the Rings nature. They'd need a better director than Peter Jackson to pull it off.

Maybe, but out of Tokien's First Age stories, you've got to admit that Turin is the most earthbound and filmable. Beren And Luthien might be filmable also, except how could you show a Silmaril on film? Any depiction that a director came up with, no matter how spectacular, would still fall short of the description.
 
SinisterMinisterX said:
Maybe, but out of Tokien's First Age stories, you've got to admit that Turin is the most earthbound and filmable. Beren And Luthien might be filmable also, except how could you show a Silmaril on film? Any depiction that a director came up with, no matter how spectacular, would still fall short of the description.

Do a Pulp Fiction?  It's Marsellus' soul, I tell ya! :innocent:
 
Raven said:
Do a Pulp Fiction?  It's Marsellus' soul, I tell ya! :innocent:

LUTHIEN: You remember your business partner King Thingol, dont'ya Morgoth?

MORGOTH: I remember him.

LUTHIEN: Good for you. Looks like me and Beren caught you at breakfast, sorry 'bout that.  What'cha eatin'?

MORGOTH: Elfburgers.

LUTHIEN: Elfburgers. The cornerstone of any nutritious breakfast.  What kinda elfburgers?

MORGOTH: Dark-elfburgers.

LUTHIEN: No, I mean where did you get'em? MacFeanor's, Galadriels's, Jack-in-the-Iron-Hills, where?

MORGOTH: Big Meneltarma Burger.

LUTHIEN: Big Meneltarma Burger. That's that Numenorean burger joint. I heard they got some tasty burgers. I ain't never had one myself, how are they?

MORGOTH: They're good.

LUTHIEN: Mind if I try one of yours?

MORGOTH: No.

Luthien grabs the burger and take a bite of it.

LUTHIEN: Uuummmm, that's a tasty burger. You know what they call a Quarter Elfer with Cheese in Mordor?

MORGOTH: No.

LUTHIEN: Tell 'em, Beren.

BEREN: Royale with Cheese.

LUTHIEN: Royale with Cheese, you know why they call it that?

MORGOTH: Because there's no elves in Mordor?

LUTHIEN: Check out the big brain on Morgoth! You'a smart motherfucker, that's right. No elves in Mordor. (to Sauron:) You, Red-Eye, you know what we're here for?

Sauron nods his head: "Yes."

LUTHIEN: Then why don't you tell my boy here Beren, where you got the shit hid.

SHELOB: It's under the th --

LUTHIEN: I don't remember askin' you a goddamn thing! (to Sauron:) You were sayin'?

SAURON: It's under the throne.

Beren moves to the throne, reaches underneath it, pulling out a black snap briefcase.

BEREN: Got it.

Beren flips the two locks, opening the case. We can't see what's inside, but a gold-and-silver glow emits from the case. Beren just stares at it, transfixed.

LUTHIEN: We happy?

No answer from the transfixed Beren.

LUTHIEN: Beren!

Beren looks up at Luthien.

LUTHIEN: We happy?

Beren closes the case.

BEREN: We're happy.

LUTHIEN: Now Morgoth, would you describe for me what King Thingol looks like?

Morgoth can't speak. Luthien SNAPS, SAVAGELY TIPPING the card table over, removing the only barrier between himself and Morgoth. Morgoth now sits
in a lone chair before Luthien like a political prisoner in front of an interrogator.


LUTHIEN: What country you from!

MORGOTH: What?

LUTHIEN: "What" ain't no country I ever heard of!  Do they speak Sindarin in "What?"

MORGOTH: What?

LUTHIEN: Sindarin-motherfucker-can-you-speak-it?

MORGOTH: Yes!

LUTHIEN: Now describe what King Thingol looks like!

MORGOTH: What?

LUTHIEN: Say "What" again! Say "What" again!  I dare ya, I double-dare ya motherfucker, say "What" one more goddamn time!

MORGOTH: Well he's ...he's... old... and--

LUTHIEN: Does he look like a bitch?!

MORGOTH: What?

Luthien SHOOTS Morgoth in the shoulder. Morgoth screams.

LUTHIEN: Does-he-look-like-a-bitch?!

MORGOTH: No!

LUTHIEN: Then why did you try to fuck 'im like a bitch?!

MORGOTH: I didn't!

LUTHIEN: Yes ya did Morgoth. Ya tried ta fuck 'im. You ever read the Silmarillion, Morgoth?

MORGOTH: Yes.

LUTHIEN: There's a passage I got memorized...
 
Well, well, this news is certainly very exciting. Judging from the nature of Christopher Tolkiens work, the story will probably be the same as the version in The Silmarillion or The Book of Lost Tales with some editorial changes, and perhaps with some extra material pulled from unpublished notes. At any rate, I think a film of this would be great since in many ways it is the most 'human' of all Tolkiens works and could quite easily be an old Nordic or Celtic tale. What touched me the most about this story was how tragic it was, but also how similar it was to early myths such as that of Oedipus. Anyway, if you see someone standing in front of the bookstore drooling on the day it comes out, its probably me.  :innocent:
 
Natalie said:
What touched me the most about this story was how tragic it was, but also how similar it was to early myths such as that of Oedipus. Anyway, if you see someone standing in front of the bookstore drooling on the day it comes out, its probably me.  :innocent:

Ah Yes Oedipus... hehe Him and I are TIGHT, dawg!
 
Yesterday I finished "The Children of Hurin".

I really enjoyed it and it reads pretty quickly. My wife bought me a nice hardcover edition with drawings of Alan Lee (a nice addition to the story) !
 
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