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Hello. I hope someone is reading this. I'm currently on a schoolbrake witch lasts til the 9th. I really need to get my german grade to be at least "3" which is the first positive grade in estonian grading system. My german teacher told me to do a task about music. So here it is. I wrote the text and translated it with an online translator but I need someone to check them for me. I would really need this!

If someone is doing it, I can only offer my graditude... You can skip the Scorpions text, as I'm not sure I'm going to use it. Here are the original texts:



Scorpions
Style: hard rock/heavy metal

Rudolf Schenker set out to found a band in 1965. Things began to come together in 1969 when Schenker's younger brother Michael and vocalist Klaus Meine joined the band. After Rudolf and Klaus split with Michael and their bass player and drummer, they joined a band called Dawn Road, which consisted of Francis Buchholz (bass), Uli Roth (guitar) and Juergen Rosenthal (drums). Together they decided to call this new band "Scorpions", a name that people would easily remember and understand not only in Germany. The band is well known for its power ballads and the unique voice of Klaus Meine. They've had huge world tours and they have even played in Soviet Union, which in those days was very rear and unusual. These days they are still recording, still touring. They have recorded 20 albums, with one the way this year. Their most memorable songs are: Rock You Like A Hurricane, Still Loving You, Make It Real, The Zoo, Wind Of Change. The current lineup is: Klaus Meine (vocals), Matthias Jabs (guitar), Rudolf Schenker (guitar), Pawel Maciwoda (bass) and James Kottak (drums).



Helloween
Style: speed/heavy/power metal

The history of Helloween begins in 1978, when Kai Hansen (vocals/guitar) and Piet Sielck (vocals/guitar) were playing in a band called Ge nt ry in Hamburg. In 1981, Ge nt ry changes it's name Second Hell, which then features Markus Großkopf on bass and Ingo Schwichtenberg on drums. After Sielck leaves Second Hell, the band is renamed to Iron Fist. In 1982 Michael Weikath, guitarist of the local band Powerfool, tries to lure Kai into his band, but then decides to join Iron Fist instead. In 1984, a small record-company called Noise invites the band to contribute songs to the compilation "Death Metal". Still not satisfied with their outfit, Iron Fist change to Helloween, a name which Ingo Schwichtenberg comes up with, along with the idea to replace the "o" with a pumpkin and to draw pumpkin-projects for specific songs, which later became Helloween trademark. In 1987, during a tour, Kai decides that he can't handle singing and they recruit Ralf Scheepers, who stays only for the tour. Finally they find a 18 year old Michael Kiske. Since then, only 2 original Helloween members are still in the band: Weikath and Grosskopf. Kai Hansen leaves in 1988 stating that he had conflicts with the band. The band's popularity started to fade during the 90's and after releasing 2 huge ablums "The Keeper Of The Seven Keys" part I & II, they come out with 2 albums that turn out to be a failure. In 1995 Ingo Schwichtenberg commits suicide by jumping in front of a subway train. He was a drug addict and a schizophrenic. Helloween make a comeback with "Master of the Rings". They release more albums which put them back on the success map. In 2005, Helloween releases "Keeper of the Seven Keys - The Legacy". The current lineup is: Andreas Deris (vocals), Michael Weikath (guitar), Sascha Gerstner (guitar), Markus Grosskopf (bass), Daniel Loeble (drums). Helloween has released 16 albums.


Grave Digger
Style: speed/heavy/power metal

Grave Digger was started by Chris Boltendahl, Peter Masson, Willi Lackmann and Albert Eckardt. They recorded a song for the compilation album "Rock from Hell" in 1983. A year later, Grave Digger released their debut album "Heavy Metal Breakdown". They released their second album "Witchhunter" in 1985. After this album was completed, Eckardt left the band; he was replaced by C.F. Brank. Thereafter, Peter Masson gave way to Ulve Lulis; in 1987 the band's name was changed to Digger, the name under which they released the album "Stronger Than Ever". This album hardly had anything in common with the earlier music of Grave Digger. It was more an attempt to reach the masses with mainstream rock like that of Bon Jovi or Van Halen. The album flopped, as it wasn't accepted by fans or the masses. As a result, Chris Boltendahl declared, at the end of 1987, the break up of the band. However, the band partially reformed in 1991. Christ Boltendahl and Uwe Lulis, along with two valuable newcomers, Tom Göttlich and Jörg Michael, who had been the drummers for Rage and Running Wild, released a comeback record, "The Reaper". This song returned to the true roots of Grave Digger. The band got back to making what was Grave Digger. Since then, they have used many folk legends to create successful records. Using the legend of king Arthur to make "Excalibur", which is probably their best album, The Wagner's opera "Der Ring des Nibelungen" was made in to "Rheingold". Currently Grave Digger is Chris Boltendahl (vocals), Manni Schmidt (guitar), Jens Becker (bass), Stefan Arnold (drums) and Hans Peter Katzenburg (keyboards). They have released 13 albums.


Blind Guardian
Style: epic speed and now power metal

Blind Guardian (Hansi Kürsch (vocals/bass), Andre Olbrich (back vocals/lead guitar), Marcus Siepen (rhythm guitar), Thomas Stauch(drums)) started in the mid-1980s in Krefelds. Before calling themselves Blind Guardian, the band released two demos under the name Lucifer's Heritage in 1986 and 1987. From the very beginning, Blind Guardian have been inspired by the fictional worlds of J. R. R. Tolkien and other fantasy authors, as well as traditional legends and epics. Over the years, a running theme has developed associating the band members with traveling bards. Blind Guardian's first two albums, "Battalions Of Fear" and "Follow The Blind", were much more in the style of speed metal than their following works. Beginning with their third album "Tales From The Twilight World", Blind Guardian gradually turned to a more sophisticated sound, including vast use of choirs and orchestral arrangements. Blind Guardian's music is characterized by the classic fast guitars and double bass drumming of power metal, but is relatively unique in its use of overdubs to create an extremely dense, "epic" sound. This technique, especially notable in the guitar and vocal tracks, creates the impression of a vast army of musicians playing in unison and singing in harmony. "A Night At The Opera" was a vast driftoff from what was original BG. Maybe that is why Thomas left to create his own band (Savage Circus) which sounds very much like the old BG. Probably because their singer has a very similiar voice to Hansi. His replacement was soon found - a much younger Frederik Ehmke. In 1997, Hansi decided that a different bassist would allow for more complex parts, and allow himself to further his vocal technique both live and in the studio. On Blind Guardian's second and third studio albums, Kai Hansen, formerly of Helloween, performed guest vocals on a few songs and a guest guitar solo. Their most memorable songs are "The Bard's Song - In The Forest", "Mirror Mirror", "Bright Eyes" and many many more.
 
And here are the translated ones:


Scorpions
hard rock

Rudolf Schenker Satz aus zu hat ein Band in 1965 gefunden. Dinge haben begonnen, in 1969 zusammenzukommen, als der jünger Bruder Michael von Schenker und Sänger Klaus Meine das Band angeschlossen hat. Nach Rudolf und Klaus spaltet mit Michael und ihrem Bassist und Schlagzeuger, sie haben angeschlossen ein Band hat gerufen Dawn Road, der aus Francis Buchholz (Bass) bestanden hat, Uli Roth (Gitarre) und Juergen Rosenthal (Trommeln). Zusammen haben sie entschieden, dieses neue Band "Scorpions" zu rufen, ein Name, den Leute sich leicht an und erinnern würden, würde nicht nur in Deutschland verstehen. Das Band ist gut für seine Kräfteballaden und die einmalige Stimme von Klaus Meine bekannt. Sie haben riesige Weltenreisen und gehabt, den sie sogar in Sowjetunion gespielt haben, die in den Tagen sehr hinter und ungewöhnlich war. Heutzutage zeichnen sie noch, stilles Bereisen auf. Sie haben 20 Alben, mit einem dem Weg in diesem Jahr aufgezeichnet. Ihre denkwürdigsten Lieder sind: Rock You Like A Hurricane, Still Loving You, Make It Real, The Zoo, Wind Of Change. Die Strömung leinet ist auf: Klaus Meine (Vokale), Matthias Stößt (Gitarre), Rudolf Schenker (Gitarre), Pawel Maciwoda (Bass) und Klemmt Kottak (Trommeln).


Helloween
speed/heavy/power metal

Die Geschichte von Helloween beginnt in 1978, als Kai Hansen (Vokale/Gitarre) und Piet Sielck (Vokale/Gitarre) spielte in einem Band Gentry in Hamburg gerufen hat. In 1981 ändert Gentry es ist Namen Seconnd Hell, der dann Markus Großkopf auf Bass und Ingo Schwichtenberg auf Trommeln kennzeichnet. Nach Sielck Blättern Se C O n d H el l, ist das Band zu Iro n Fi s t. umbenannt. Im Michael Weikath von 1982 Gitarrist vom örtlichen Band Powerfool, Versuche, Kai in sein Band anzulocken, aber entscheidet dann, Iron Fist anstatt anzuschließen. In 1984 hat ein klein Aufzeichnungsfirma Noise einlädt das Band gerufen, Liedern zum Kompilation "Death Metal" beizutragen. Noch nicht zufrieden mit ihrer Ausrüstung, Iron Fist Änderung zu Helloween, ein Name, der Ingo Schwichtenberg mit erscheint, zusammen mit der Idee, das "O" mit einem Kürbis zu ersetzen, und Kürbisprojekt für spezifische Lieder zu zeichnen, die später Helloween Warenzeichen geworden sind. In 1987 während einer Reise entscheidet Kai, dass er Singen nicht behandeln kann, und sie werben Ralf Scheepers an, der nur für die Reise bleibt. Schließlich finden sie einen 18 Jahre alten Michael Kiske. Seit dann, sind nur 2 ursprüngliche Helloween Mitglieder still im Band: Weikath und Grosskopf. Kai erklären Hansen Blätter in 1988, dass er Konflikte mit dem Band gehabt hat. Die Popularität des Bands hat angefangen während des 90's zu verwelken und nach Freigeben 2 riesigen ablums "The Keeper Of The Seven Keys" trennen ich & II, kommen sie mit 2 Alben heraus, die sich als ein Ausfall erweisen. Im Ingo Schwichtenberg von 1995 begeht Selbstmord durch Springen vor einem U-Bahnzug. Er war ein Drogensüchtiger und ein schizophrenes. Helloween machen ein Comeback mit "Master of the Rings". Sie geben mehr Alben frei, die sie wieder die Erfolgkarte aufsetzen. In 2005 freigibt Helloween "Keeper of the Seven Keys - The Legacy". Die Strömung leinet ist auf: Andreas Deris (Vokale), Michael Weikath (Gitarre), Sascha Gerstner (Gitarre), Markus Grosskopf (Bass), Daniel Loeble (Trommeln). Helloween hat 16 Alben freigegeben.



Grave Digger
speed/heavy/power metal

Grave Digger wurde von Chris Boltendahl, Peters Masson, Willi Lackmann und Albert Eckardt angefangen. Sie haben ein Lied für das Kompilationalbum aufgezeichnet "Rock from Hell" in 1983. Ein Jahr später, Grave Digger hat ihren Erscheinenalbum "Heavy Metal Breakdown" freigegeben. Sie haben ihr zweites Album "Witchhunter" in 1985 freigegeben. Nachdem dieses Album vollendet wurde, hat Eckardt das Band verlassen; er wurde durch C. F ersetzt. Brank. Danach hat Peter Masson Ulve Lulis nachgegeben; in 1987 der Name des Bands wurde zu Grabgerät, der Name geändert unter den sie haben freigegeben das Album "Stronger Than Ever". Dieses Album hat kaum irgendetwas gemeinsam mit der früheren Musik von Grave Digger gehabt. Es war mehr ein Versuch, die Masse mit vorherrschendem Felsen wie das von Bon Jovi oder Lieferwagen Halen zu erreichen. Das Album ist danebengegangen, als es von Anhängern oder den Masse nicht angenommen wurde. Demzufolge hat Chris Boltendahl erklärt, am Ende von 1987, der Bruch auf vom Band. Jedoch, hat das Band teilweise in 1991 reformiert. Christus Boltendahl und Uwe Lulis, zusammen mit zwei wertvollen Ankömmlingen, Tom Göttlich und Jörg Michael, die waren gewesen die Schlagzeuger für Rage und Running Wild, hat eine Comebackaufzeichnung freigegeben, "The Reaper". Dieses Lied ist zu den wahren Wurzeln von Grave Digger zurückgekehrt. Das Band, das zurück zu Machen geworden worden ist, was Grave Digger war. Seit dann, haben sie viele Leutelegenden benutzt, erfolgreiche Aufzeichnungen zu schaffen. Gebrauch die Legende von König Artus, "Excalibur" zu machen, der wahrscheinlich ihr bestes Album ist, wurde die Oper der "Der Ring des Nibelungen" von Dem Wagner in zu "Rheingold" gemacht. Momentan ist Grave Digger Chris Boltendahl (Voakle), Manni Schmidt (Gitarre), Jens Becker (Bass), Stefan Arnold (Trommeln) und Hans Peter Katzenburg (Tastaturen). Sie haben 13 Alben freigegeben.


Blind Guardian
Vor: epic speed metal
jetzt: epic power metal

Blind Guardian (Hansi Kürsch (Voakle/Bass), Andre Olbrich (hinter Vokale/führende Gitarre), Marcus Siepen (Rhythmusgitarre), Thomas Stauch(drums)) hat angefangen in den mittleren 1980er Jahren in Krefelds. Vor Rufen sich Blind Guardian, hat das Band zwei Demobänder unter dem Namen Lucifer's Heritage in 1986 und 1987 freigegeben. Vom genauen Anfang ist Blind Guardian von den erdichteten Welten von J. R. R. Tolkien und anderen Phantasienautoren, sowie traditionelle Legenden und Epen begeistert worden. Im Verlauf der Jahre hat ein laufendes Thema verbindend die Bändermitglieder mit Reisen bards entwickelt. Blind Guardian's zuerst zwei Alben, "Battalions Of Fear" und "Follow The Blind", war viel mehr im Stil von Geschwindigkeitmetall als ihre Folgenden Arbeiten. Anfang mit ihrem dritten Album "Tales From The Twilight World", Blind Guardian hat allmählich zu einem raffinierteren Klang, einschließlich ausgedehnten Gebrauchs von Chören und Orchesteranordnungen gedreht. Blind Guardian's Musik wird von der Klassiker schnellen Gitarren und Kontrabass charakterisiert, der von Kraftmetall trommelt, aber ist verhältnismäßig einmalig in seinem Gebrauch von overdubs, einen äußerst dichten, "epischen" Klang zu schaffen. Dieses Verfahren, besonders beachtenswert in die Gitarre und die stimmlichen Spuren, schafft den Eindruck von einer ausgedehnten Armee der Musiker spielend in Einklang und Singen in Harmonie. "A Night At The Opera" war ein ausgedehnt driftoff, von was ursprünglicher BG war. Vielleicht, deswegen Thomas verlassen hat, sein eigenes Band (Savage Circus) zu schaffen, das sehr viel ertönt, wie der alt BG. Wahrscheinlich, weil ihr Sänger eine sehr similiar Stimme zu Hansi hat. Seine Ersetzung wurde bald gefunden - ein viel jünger Frederik Ehmke. In 1997 hat Hansi entschieden, dass ein verschiedener Bassist für kompliziertere Teile erlauben würde, und hat erlaubt, dass sich selbst sein stimmliches Verfahren sowohl lebende als im Studio fördert. An der Sekunde und dritte Studiosalben, Kai Hansen, früher von Helloween, durchgeführten Gast der stimmlich ist auf ein paar Liedern und einem Gastgitarrensolo. Ihre denkwürdigsten Lieder sind "The Bard's Song - In The Forest", "Mirror Mirror", "Bright Eyes", "Somewhere Far Beyond" und viele noch viele.
 
I'm not sure Onhell knows any german at all. He's from Mexico, and lives in the US, but Peruns' German, and helping, so you should ask him...
 
[!--QuoteBegin-Black Ace+Jan 5 2006, 02:17 PM--][div class=\'quotetop\']QUOTE(Black Ace @ Jan 5 2006, 02:17 PM)[/div][div class=\'quotemain\'][!--QuoteEBegin--]I'm not sure Onhell knows any german at all. He's from Mexico, and lives in the US, but Peruns' German, and helping, so you should ask him...
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Onhell knows German, he´s been studying it several years.
 
I asked Perun... I hope he helps... he's kinda my last hope
 
pfft i studied for 4 years I wouldn't count that as several and i can't make it past "Wie Gehts?" so I am NOT the person to ask, there are enough Germans on this board to handle that task, any Spanish question I'll be glad to answer though.
 
I've been studing for 5 years now, and I still cant understand german [!--emo&:unsure:--][img src=\'style_emoticons/[#EMO_DIR#]/unsure.gif\' border=\'0\' style=\'vertical-align:middle\' alt=\'unsure.gif\' /][!--endemo--] [!--emo&:(--][img src=\'style_emoticons/[#EMO_DIR#]/sad.gif\' border=\'0\' style=\'vertical-align:middle\' alt=\'sad.gif\' /][!--endemo--]
 
I studied German for about the same amount of time as Onhell, am on (it seems) the same level of skill, and I found a mistake in the first sentence. Online translators are NOT to be used for things like school papers, they do fine for finding the meaning of a text but completely miss the lingual subtleties found in different languges.
Take the "funny" game of translating something from English to Spanish and then back for example, you will find that Babelfish completely screws it up.
 
[!--QuoteBegin-$yk0_H+Jan 6 2006, 12:57 AM--][div class=\'quotetop\']QUOTE($yk0_H @ Jan 6 2006, 12:57 AM)[/div][div class=\'quotemain\'][!--QuoteEBegin--]I studied German for about the same amount of time as Onhell, am on (it seems) the same level of skill, and I found a mistake in the first sentence. Online translators are NOT to be used for things like school papers, they do fine for finding the meaning of a text but completely miss the lingual subtleties found in different languges.
Take the "funny" game of translating something from English to Spanish and then back for example, you will find that Babelfish completely screws it up.
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I know, thats why I'm seeking help
 
Attn Dr Freeman:

How about this idea instead: do your own work instead of using online translators and other people to CHEAT.

You fucking disgust me.
 
To tell you the truth, it is easier to re-translate all this from the scratch than to fix the translator results. If you handed in what you posted there, you would definitely get a 5, if not a 6. If I wouldn't know this was in fact just transliterated English Grammar, I would think it was some German words tossed together at random.

I am ready to help you here, but only if we make this deal: You try to translate your texts by your own first and I will review them and help you correct your mistakes. This way, we both benefit from it. I get the good conscience that I helped someone and don't have to translate something, which is quite honestly not my favourite hobby. You get some genuine help which may in fact improve your own German and your grades.

Deal?
 
By the way, to give you an impression of what the translation is like:

[!--QuoteBegin--][div class=\'quotetop\']QUOTE[/div][div class=\'quotemain\'][!--QuoteEBegin--]den sie sogar in Sowjetunion gespielt haben, die in den Tagen sehr hinter und ungewöhnlich war.[/quote]

Literally, this translates into "whom they even played in Soviet Union, who was very behind and unusual in the days".


[!--QuoteBegin--][div class=\'quotetop\']QUOTE[/div][div class=\'quotemain\'][!--QuoteEBegin--]Er war ein Drogensüchtiger und ein schizophrenes.[/quote]

"He was a drug addict (so far, so good) and a schizophrenic." This is good English but poor German. "schizophrenes" is an attribute, meaning it needs someone or something which is described with it. A proper English example would be "he is a dirty." A dirty what? "Ein schizophrenes Arschloch" would be "a schizophrenic arsehole", but "ein schizophrenes" doesn't mean anything.

[!--QuoteBegin--][div class=\'quotetop\']QUOTE[/div][div class=\'quotemain\'][!--QuoteEBegin--]Helloween hat 16 Alben freigegeben.[/quote]

This would be a vocabulary mistake. While "release" can mean "freigeben", it doesn't mean that in this context. "Freigeben" is more in the context of "to allow", "to deallocate". The proper German wourd would be "veröffentlichen" (in past tense, of course).

[!--QuoteBegin--][div class=\'quotetop\']QUOTE[/div][div class=\'quotemain\'][!--QuoteEBegin--] in 1987 der Name des Bands wurde zu Grabgerät, der Name geändert unter den sie haben freigegeben das Album "Stronger Than Ever". [/quote]

This is absolutely hilarious. Again, we have the "freigeben" error, but we have a couple of other interesting things. "Der Name des Bands" literally translates to "the name of the ribbon" (double meaning of "band"). "Grave Digger" is translated, and even incorrectly, into "grave tool". The grammar of this sentence is, as in almost the complete translation, atrocious.

[!--QuoteBegin--][div class=\'quotetop\']QUOTE[/div][div class=\'quotemain\'][!--QuoteEBegin--]Lieferwagen Halen[/quote]

"Van" (the truck) is literally translated into "Lieferwagen" here.

[!--QuoteBegin--][div class=\'quotetop\']QUOTE[/div][div class=\'quotemain\'][!--QuoteEBegin--]anderen Phantasienautoren[/quote]

This is again a vocabulary error. "Fantasy" remains untranslated in German, the term for the genre is the same here. "Phantasie" means "imagination".

There are many, many, many other mistakes of this sort in the translations, and, as I said, it would be easier to translate the whole thing again from the scratch than to correct all the errors here.
 
[!--QuoteBegin-SinisterMinisterX+Jan 5 2006, 08:28 PM--][div class=\'quotetop\']QUOTE(SinisterMinisterX @ Jan 5 2006, 08:28 PM)[/div][div class=\'quotemain\'][!--QuoteEBegin--]Attn Dr Freeman:

How about this idea instead: do your own work instead of using online translators and other people to CHEAT.

You fucking disgust me.
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Ditto.
How does using an online translator prove you've learned the language? It proves nothing except that you're a lazy shit. Get off your lazy arse and actually study the grammer rules; look up unfamiliar words in a German-English dictionary.

If you plan to actually go to an institution of higher learning (which is unlikely, given the stupidity you've shown here), you'll be in for a shock. Cheating like this is grounds for immediate dismissal from any university I know of.
 
HEY HEY WOW THERE!!! Zimmer down man. There are much nicer and constructive ways to put this point across, what's wrong with you ? There is nothing wrong with asking for help and I think Perun's proposition is a good one, let the guy do the work and he simply points out mistakes leading him instead of doing it for him. Take a deep breath or a drink.
 
I think he should be happy with that opportunity and not cheat it. If he tells you can get your grade better he doesn't mean your grade he means your knowledge of grammar with that. If you make it on your own you will be much more aware of your mistakes and later on you will do it the right way. Dodging it only makes it worse as it only gets harder and harder.

But it's your life and if you want to shrew it up then that's your choice, just be careful of the consecuences.
 
I'll try, tho I really do suck at this. I mean I can translate it word to word but I'll bet it'll lose its meaning
 
[!--QuoteBegin-Dr Freeman+Jan 7 2006, 05:48 PM--][div class=\'quotetop\']QUOTE(Dr Freeman @ Jan 7 2006, 05:48 PM)[/div][div class=\'quotemain\'][!--QuoteEBegin--]I'll try, tho I really do suck at this. I mean I can translate it word to word but I'll bet it'll lose its meaning
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It can not lose it's meaning more than it has with the online translation. Just do it, post the result here and I'll check it.
 
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