Internet Help?

Wästed The Great

Minister Of Chicks, Metal&Beer; Cool & Froody Dude
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I am wondering if anyone out there has any good ideas for me.  I live in a semi-rural area (midwest USA), and in order to have high-speed internet, I have to have a phone line and DSL.  It kinda drives me nuts, cause I don't wanna spend $35 a month on a phone I don't use, just for the net.  However, I can't get cable (too far out of town), and the satellite that seems to be offered is either slow, or they only offer a limited amount of download time.  I can't get the 'wireless antenna', cause I don't have line of sight to the tower, and the cellular phone air-cards only offer dial-up speeds due to the lack of connectivity.  Is there some other way to get the internet, other than that?  Seems like I have used up all the options I know...
 
No, I do have a phone line.  I hafta have a ground-based phone line to have the internet.  I have Frontier, and I hate them.  I use my cel phone and didn't want a land line, but I hafta have it to run the DSL.
 
Wasted155 said:
No, I do have a phone line.
Forgive my ignorance, but can't you put ADSL on that line? Or are you saying that the only phone line you have is a cell phone (or mobile to us simple Brits :P)?
 
Albie said:
Forgive my ignorance, but can't you put ADSL on that line? Or are you saying that the only phone line you have is a cell phone (or mobile to us simple Brits :P)?

Currently, I have both.  I have my mobile, and I have a land line and DSL with it (is DSL and ADSL dif?).  I am trying to get away from having a phone line, tho, because I never use it.  Its not a big deal, but I just would rather spend the $30 each month on something else.  LC and I were messing around one nite, and my speed on the net is 1.5 meg download, and its $50 a month for that. 

LooseCannon said:
Wait for the lines in the area to be updated, and get cable then.

Probably the best bet, but I'm antsy. 
 
Come to Canada.  Better banks, more taxes, better health care, and faster internet.
 
Wasted155 said:
(is DSL and ADSL dif?).
I'm just used to saying ADSL, that's all. ADSL is a type of DSL.

What is getting a bit popular here (although it's not entirely new) is these little dongles that use the mobile (cell) network and can give you speeds comparable to DSL. So, if your cellphone will work, then so will these. Not sure how expensive they are in the US, but you can get contract and pay-as-you go fairly cheaply here - however, even though they say unlimited usage, it is not entirely true as it is unlimited as long as you don't download too many gig's worth of data. :D
 
Yeah, I've looked into that from Verizon and US Cel... they told me that since the reception in my area is kind of weak, I'll be dealing with a degraded speed... closer to dial-up.  I may look into that again and see if they have improved the signal in the area.
LooseCannon said:
Come to Canada.  Better banks, more taxes, better health care, and faster internet.

And better beer.
 
I'll be dealing with a degraded speed... closer to dial-up

My cell provider guarantees 114kbps GPRS anywhere on surface and sea. In populated areas minimal expectance is between EDGE and UMTS, 256-384kbps, if you're in a bigger town or one of the cities you can get 1.5mbps HSDPA. In biggest cities, if you aren't on the suburbs, you can get 7.2mpbs HSDPA.

Average land line connection is 2mbps (cable, ADSL). We're talking about downstreams here only.

The pricing sucks, because i'm paying 30euros for 2mbps cable, with 30 basic TV channels and a VOIP phone connection which is free for all fixed phone, but like all other fixed phones, pricing is high if you're dialing cellular. And that package is currently the best bang for the buck.

Same speed ADSLs may come twice as cheap but they have bandwidth limits of insane 1/3/5GB.

The cellular connections are even worse...you are paying 20euros per month for a 1GB package. Regardless of it's high speed, it's functionality is limited. For instance, at the company we use that kind of connections for field work, when you need to grab something from the 'net or send an email, and you have no other choice. We don't use USB dongles or PCIMCI modems (most of them come from Huawei Tech, and are notorious for their complexity of installation and stability), we are going directly with cellphones serving as modems. Only a handful of home users use mobile internet technology.

There was a FTTH (fiber optics to the home) provider which had a package of 10/10mbps, basic phone and basic TV for 40euros/month, which was great only because of the 10mbit synchronous connection (you can host a lot of stuff from home on that link). They had a couple of customers, but were bought by a larger ISP which uses only backend optics and frontends are on copper. Needless to say, they don't offer that kind of package anymore.

It never fails to amaze me how a country with average paycheck of $1000/month can have a average price of 40 dollars for unlimited, yet slower than standard internet connection.
 
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