Great thanks to murder?

Ariana

Black-and-white leopard
I just came across an article which claims that Iron Maiden are more successful than other bands like Megadeth and Metallica because every single song in their first five albums has to do with killing.
Here's the article itself:
http://www.vice.com/read/iron-maiden-is-great-thanks-to-murder

This theory sounds plainly ridiculous to me, as it dismisses other, certainly much more important aspects of their success, such as the quality of the music and the relentless touring for years. I'd be interested to know what you guys think of this.
 
He labeled Transylvania as "city".
Whole article is complete bullshit. With that kind of lightyears-far-fetching you could link any theme to death.
 
That's just.. wow. The connections there are so insanely poor, stuff like "22 is about prostitute, who are often murdered" ... yes but is she murdered in the song? no. Therefore, it's not about death. The Prisoner "Has likely killed people at some point" just how vague do you want to be?

The fact that they changed from "It's about murder" to "It's about death" before they'd even got to the list also spells out that they did about 5 songs then realised it wasn't working.
 
Let's put it this way. Classic heavy metal really does revolve around dark themes, and obviously a lot of that has to do with death, the afterlife and so on. But the interpretations offered in that post are really ludicrous. I have to put my mind off some things right now, so for the heck of it, I'll comment on all of those... and I hope the person who wrote this article is reading this. So when I say "you", that's who I mean.

“Prowler”
This is about stalking and flashing a woman, then (probably) killing her. If you google “flasher linked to murder” you do get several results. :(

This song is obviously about a stalker, but there is no reference to killing anybody in it. Putting a "probably" in parentheses there doesn't change anything about that.

“Remember Tomorrow”
A song written for Paul Di’Anno’s grandfather about being dead.

It's about the memory of Paul's grandfather. People die even without murder. A startling revelation, I know.

“Running Free”
“Pulled her at the bottle top / Whiskey dancing disco hop / And all the boys are after me / And that’s the way it’s gonna be.” Getting away with killing a stripper.

That... is the oddest interpretation I have ever heard. I can't see any reference to killing in those lines.

“Phantom of the Opera”
A tribute to a disfigured maniac who lives under an opera house, where he tortures and kills people.

Lots of heavy metal bands write songs about horror stories. That doesn't prove anything. Reading the novel helps, too: It's a dark love story, and if there is murder and torture, it is not the focal point. Although Maiden do make it that way, admittedly. So, if you must, that's one out of forty-seven.

“Transylvania”
Instrumental about a city where vampires kill people.

Horror story again, yes. Transylvania isn't a city, but that's not the point. No lyrics.

“Strange World”
“Happy in a new strange world” with “girls drinking plasma wine.” This is probably Hades, which means you’re dead.

Again, people die without murder. This time, the "probably" is without parentheses, but that does not prove anything either. Those lyrics can really mean anything. In my opinion, the song is about escapism, which has more to do with drug abuse than murder or hell.

“Sanctuary”
This is about running from the law after witnessing a murder.

Good spot. Two out of forty-seven.

“Charlotte the Harlot”
Prostitutes are often the targets of homicidal maniacs. Though this one makes it through this song, she eventually goes to hell in the 1992 track “From Here To Eternity.”

That interpretation is so forced it's ridiculous. The song is not about murder, it's about prostitution. Look them up, two different things. I could write a song about insurance brokers. I bet there's a lot of them getting killed too.

“Iron Maiden”
A guide to luring a person to your house so you can kill them. Key lyric: “Iron Maiden wants you dead.”

I don't know what kind of guides this person reads, but this is just another horror story made to sound cool. Though technically, you could count it, that makes three out of forty-seven.

With Killers, things are admittedly a bit different. There is indeed a lot of reference to homicide on that album. Still, a lot of interpretations are dead wrong, in my opinion:

“The Ides of March”
An instrumental referring Caesar getting betrayed and murdered.

Good spot. Four out of forty-seven.

“Wrathchild”
All about an unwanted child who’s looking for his father who he’s never met and is going to kill. Hey, that’s the plot to “Boy Named Sue” too!

Got that right up to "and is going to kill". Where the hell does it say that in the song?

“Murders In the Rue Morgue”
Do I have to draw you a roadmap?

No, but you could at least note the fact that this is based on a short story by Edgar Allan Poe, one of the most famous authors of horror stories ever. I wonder what you would say if you read through his writings. Anyway, five out of forty-seven.

“Another Life”
A guy contemplating suicide on an album called Killers.

I don't know what the second part of the sentence is supposed to tell me, but there is of course no false statement in there. I'll give you six out of forty-seven, but we really need to talk about the extent of that "murder definition" thing.

“Genghis Khan”
Another instrumental, this one about a military leader who is famous for killing people by the thousands.

I wonder what you would have said had they used the original title, which was Jenkin's Barn. I'm not going to give you this one, because there is no clear evidence whether they wanted to refer to Genghis Khan's slaying of people or simply evoke the idea of conquering Mongol hordes... I doubt the killing was meant to be the focal point. I admit that I may be wrong, though.

“Innocent Exile”
So this is about a man wrongfully accused of a crime, but the crime is murder, of course.

Another borderline, but I'm in a generous mood, so I'll grant you seven out of forty-seven.

“Killers”
Guess what this is about?

This is the only song where I would admit that you have a case. Eight out of forty-seven.

“Twilight Zone”
A guy is stuck in purgatory and debates killing his girlfriend so they can hang out.

There is absolutely no reference to him debating killing his girlfriend. He does say he can't wait till she is with him, but that says more about his craving and loneliness, which is what the song is trying to tell you about - if you would listen. Besides, how should he kill her anyway?

“Prodigal Son”
Whenever you ask for help from someone who murders innocent kids, you have likely done a shitload of killing on your own.

A major stretch. There really is a lot of other meaning that could be read into the Lamia reference.

“Purgatory”
Where you go when you die, probably after being murdered.

Or after clutching at straws by reading your favourite meaning into anything and everything. It would help reading the lyrics to this one, actually.

You missed Drifter. I guess you couldn't make anything up for that one.

So we've gone through two albums with a total of 20 songs, although you missed one. We have eight songs which I would interpret being about murder. Looks like you're pretty wrong so far. But all is not lost, there's three more to go.

“Invaders”
What happens when Vikings invade your shit? People die—a lot of them.

True. If we must, nine out of forty-seven.

“Children of the Damned”
Guess how it plays out when six kids are born with psychic powers and they aren’t the X-Men? They get killed.

I really wonder what agenda you are following. True, the song talks about the death of the last of the children, but you may just want to ponder about the lyrics a bit and maybe watch the film the song is based on, which is a classic. I'm not giving you this one, because you clearly have no idea what you are talking about.

“The Prisoner”
Based on a television show about a former secret agent who has probably killed people.

I'm reviewing the writing of somebody who has probably killed people. Your "probably" doesn't sound very convincing anymore, does it?

“22, Acacia Avenue”
We check in with Charlotte again, she’s still fucking mad dudes and giving them diseases. There’s a solid chance some die.

Somebody dying from disease does not qualify for murder, and we've covered this already.

“The Number of the Beast”
Ritual killings in the woods.

Where?

“Run to the Hills”
Cowboys killed a shitload of Native Americans.

I guess this one could count. Ten out of forty-seven.

“Gangland”
“Dead men tell no tales/ In Gangland murder’s up for sale.”

Eleven out of forty-seven. It is a crap song, too.

“Total Eclipse”
Guess what happens when the world ends? Everyone dies.

Doesn't make it murder, you muppet.

“Hallowed Be Thy Name”
A man reflecting before he’s hanged.

Yup. But the reflections are the focal point, not the hanging. That's like saying Camus' L'etranger is about killing Arabs - missing the point by light years. I'm not giving this one to you because I hate you.

“Where Eagles Dare”
Based on a novel about spies, World War II, Nazis, and other stuff related to killing. Also includes a suicide.

Jesus H, you really are clutching at straws here. What the song is about is an Allied commando during the Second World War - it is primarily an adventure story, not a murder manual.

“Revelations”
Inspired by the writings of Aleister Crowley, featuring venom, black abysses, and serpents.

And who's being murdered here?

“Flight of Icarus”
Based on that Greek myth you probably learned about in grade school where a dude flies too high, then catches on fire and falls to the ocean and dies.

Exactly, it's one of the most famous myths in western civilisation. No murder here, although somebody dies.

I'm going to ask you something here: How many stories do you know that have been passed on for centuries that do not have any deaths in them? For the fun of it, let's just take the ancient Greek ones. The Heraclean tasks include the killing of Geryones and his dogs and the sacrificial murder of people that Heracles ends by killing the Egyptian priests. And it's actually a pretty bloodless myth. Theseus does a lot more killing in his tasks. After he comes home from killing a bullheaded monster that used to devour youths, his own father jumps to his death from the Acropolis - and that's only the most famous part of it. The Icarus myth is also part of the same cycle. You may want to sit down for the Trojan War, because it is about a ten year siege which has the death of three great heroes as its dramatic high point. And the city gets completely razed in the end. Odysseus does a lot of killing before he, now hold your breath, goes down to Hades himself to get advice on how to get home - where the first thing he does is shoot twenty guys with arrows. As for Perseus, his entire myth is about killing Medusa. Oedipus kills his own father. Jason and the Argonauts also do plenty of killing. Just read these stories up - I'm sure you'll hate yourself afterwards, because these are some of the very pillars of our cultural history.

“Die With Your Boots On”
Bruce mentions almost every type of bad thing that could happen ever, including starvation and earthquakes.

And you might want to consider the message of the song, which tells about "prophets of disaster" and how you just should not listen to them.

“The Trooper”
Charging heavily armed Russian soldiers who are ready for your attack is a bad look but a great topic.

I could make a point here about how the Charge of the Light Brigade is one of the most famous single events in British history and how Lord Tennyson's poem is one of the most-cited pieces of 19th century British literature, but yes, the song is about a British soldier getting shot, so I guess I could give you twelve out of forty-seven.

“Still Life”
Don’t let the word “life” fool you, this shit is about drowning.

No it's not, it is about obsession that could possibly, but not inevitably, have fatal results.

“Quest For Fire”
Cavemen vs. dinosaurs. Doesn’t end well for anyone, really.

Read the lyrics or the book or watch the film. Maybe then you'll get an idea what it is about.

“Sun and Steel”
An ode to a dead samurai.

Everyone who lived in the 16th century is dead now.

“To Tame a Land”
You don’t rule Dune without a lot of casualties.

Again, with this line of argument, virtually every story that is told is about death and killing. Only Shakespeare's most light-hearted comedies have nobody dying in them for real, and still have a lot of soldiers and death references in them. So if you go up to that level, you are right, most of Maiden's songs have death references in them, but they are in no single way disproportionately many. I really do dare you to come up with five famous stories everybody knows that don't have anyone dying in them.

“Aces High”
A great pilot flies around and kills people.

True. Since I gave you one on The Trooper, I'll give you one here in order to be fair. Nevertheless, by that line of judgement, every history book is about killing. Thirteen out of forty-seven.

“2 Minutes to Midnight”
Tick tock goes the doomsday clock. When it strikes midnight everyone dies.

You must really hate reading the newspapers, too.

“Losfer Words (Big ‘Orra)”
A weak instrumental with little to no killing, and the band doesn’t even like it. ‘orrible song without killing.

If I could roll my eyes at that statement as hard as I wanted to, they would fall out of their sockets.

“Flash of the Blade”
A song about a swordsman that was also used in the film Phenomena about a girl who can talk to insects and solve murders, but the killings already happened, so she’s not preventing them.

We could again debate about how far that "murder definition" thingy goes, but just because I want you to win, I'll give you fourteen out of forty-seven.

“The Duelists”
You know what happens when someone challenges you to a duel? One of you dies.

Fifteen out of forty-seven, and I've never liked this song anyway.

“Back In the Village”
The sequel to “The Prisoner,” which mentions bombs, burning, killers, and killing.

Those are quite aggressive lyrics indeed, but I don't really see how this is about murder.

“Powerslave”
Egyptians were super good at killing and also preserving dead people.

Is there any ancient civilisation that can win here against you? I wonder how high your self-esteem must be if you put yourself above what is no less than one of the most widely admired cultures in world history.

“Rime of the Ancient Mariner”
More than 13 minutes detailing nautical killing.

You don't read very much, do you? In this case, Iron Maiden have been lauded as bringing one of the most famous poems ever written in the English language to the world of heavy metal music.



In conclusion: We have fifteen out of forty-seven songs that I could accept as being about murder. But this survey has brought something very different to light. True, Iron Maiden certainly focus on fairly dark topics in their lyrics. There is a lot of killing going on perhaps, but I will tell you something: That's what happens with every respectable artist. Your wide interpretation of songs about killing include everything from anti-war songs to songs written about science fiction novels and canonical poetry. If those are your standards, I have to ask, what should they write about? Maiden prefer story-telling lyrics, and they based a lot of them on famous stories told for ages, coming from history, mythology and literature. And unfortunately for you, almost every single great story ever told has killing and deaths in it. Other people sift through Maiden's lyrics and are impressed that they have Coleridge, Poe and Shakespeare in them.

It is true that their early output has got a heavy edge on the horror story/serial killer thing, but back then they also wanted to shock and provoke. They were youths, and many youths at that age like to watch horror movies and play violent games. Back in the seventies they hit each other with sticks, now they play video games where they can go on shooting sprees through city streets. By those standards, Maiden's early lyrics are actually very sophisticated and intelligent.

I wonder what your favourite movies and books (although from the impression I got from your post, you don't read very much) are. Just name ten of then, and try to come up with the body count. But remember, use the same standards as you did on the Maiden lyrics. Which means that if you like Ghostbusters, you need to count every ghost appearing in the film.

I guess the question at the core is, what do you want them to write lyrics about? Do you want them to write stupid, average love and party songs? You must, because everything else is out of the question by your standards. And in that case, you really need to re-evaluate your sense of reality.
 
The guy is just nuts, plain and simple. Just out to make a bad name for Iron Maiden. Also, he clearly has not listened to the actual songs themselves...or he'd know what they are actually about. Sir, we congratulate you for making a complete fool of yourself :applause:
 
Since I've nothing better to do, I'll save anyone else the trouble and point out every instance in which this moron is incorrect.

Just so you know, this is a complete rampage in which my overly sarcastic personality comes out. I think it's funny, some people may not, I won't be offended if you skip it.

EDIT: I wrote this before Perun posted his which may make this redundant, but it was still a fun takedown to write.

Note that "you" is in reference to the person who wrote the "Iron Maiden = murder" article, not in any way to the OP.

Iron Maiden
Prowler - Where did you get murder out of those lyrics? Are we just going to make the assumption that all flashers are murderers? I'll freely admit that these are some of Maiden's more juvenile lyrics, but I see no part of the lyrics that could even be remotely linked to murder. What, is, "Got me talking but feel like walking around," some euphemism that I don't know about? First instance of making a connection that doesn't exist, but I suspect it won't be your last… Murder Count: 0

Remember Tomorrow - Yes, this song is likely about Paul Di'Anno's deceased grandfather. However, the lyrical themes don't really relate to murder. It's more likely that Paul's grandfather was a fighter pilot who died in a war. Even if you want to call death in war a murder, the song doesn't focus on the act of dying, but the emotions involved in him going off to fight in the war. Murder Count: 0

Running Free - What is it with you and equating sex and murder? Are you part of a cult or something? I think everyone who has ever heard that song is pretty certain that the line "Pulled her at the Bottle Top" means that he had sex with "her," not that he killed her. Once again, unless this is another weird euphemism, but if the intended meaning was murder, why not just say, "Killed her at the Bottle Top"? Murder Count: 0

Phantom of the Opera - Yes, this is has themes of murder. Wow, one whole song on Side A of the debut about murder! I certainly understand what you mean about every Iron Maiden song relating to murder! Also, in defense of Steve Harris, this is also about a great work of literature. Murder Count: 1

Transylvania - You really have no idea what you are talking about, do you? Not only that, apparently you also lack the ability to use the internet. It took me about five seconds to enter "Transylvania" into a search engine and find out that it is "a historical region in the central part of Romania" [emphasis mine]. So really, you have already quite damaged your credibility by calling Transylvania a city. But also, I will give you the fact that Transylvania is famous for Dracula. Dracula. Which is a singular noun. Not "vampires." "Vampire." Simple concept, really. Though this song has no lyrics, it is probably Dracula-related, so I can give you a second murder in the official count. Murder Count: 2

Strange World - I saw your interesting connection between "plasma wine" and Hades, but given your track record of referring to Transylvania as a city, I had to look it up. Here were my first 10 results for "plasma wine":
1) A single by a band I've never heard of.
2) An article about how coconut milk can be used, not only to make wine, but also as a substitute for blood plasma. And to think, you learn something new everyday, even while debunking some idiot's pointless claim!
3) A site streaming the song "Plasma Wine" by said band of which I have never heard.
4) An eBay auction for a "Plasma Cut Metal Wine Bottle With Corkscrew Wall Art". Frankly, this disappointed me, as I was hoping that it as an actual metal wine bottle, which might have been something cool to see, but it turned out to not be so interesting as it was just a "wall art."
5) A YouTube video entitled "Fading_Plasma Wine" with poor film quality. There is a song in the background, but unfortunately, it is not the same "Plasma Wine" as previous, as near as I can tell.
6) An article about how blood plasma "antioxidant capacity" increases after consumption of red wine.
7) A topic on a forum called "plasmaspider.com" with someone talking about a "Stupid wine rack" that they made and sold 23 of for $20 each. The responses point out that it's hard to see something on which you made $460 as stupid.
8) An engineering related article that I do not fully comprehend entitled "Plasma coating protects wine in PET bottle"

And two results featuring people asking about the meaning of the line in Strange World about which, believe it or not after 10 random search results, we are arguing.

So clearly your idea that "plasma wine" = Hades is completely unfounded. If you were arguing that this song could potentially be about drugs, rather than murder, I might have believed you. Anyway, this is getting quite wordy, so let's move along. Murder Count: 2

Sanctuary - Yep, this one is clear, at least in part, about murder. Murder Count: 3

Charlotte the Harlot - To tell you the truth, I'm reading these as I go along, and I'm a bit scared at how you might have twisted this anti-prostitution song into murder…

"Prostitutes are often the targets of homicidal maniacs" - therefore all prostitutes are murdered, right? At least you admit that this song doesn't actually contain murder, and while admittedly From Here To Eternity likely does, if you listened to this in the context of 1980, you'd have no way of knowing. No points for you. Murder Count: 3

Iron Maiden - Okay, there is an argument to be made that this song uses it's violent lyrics as a metaphor for the experience of attending an Iron Maiden concert, similar to… well, pretty much every song on Metallica's Kill 'Em All, but since I'm feeling generous, I won't even try to make it. Congratulations, you are at not even 50% on the first album. Also, I just want to say that the "a guide" part is evidence that you are skilled at the art of imagining things that aren't there. Murder Count: 4

Killers
Yeah, you might even get a 9 or 10 on this album! But you won't be so lucky in the future, I'll bet.

The Ides of March - I find it unlikely that this refers to anything besides Caesar's murder. Congratulations. Murder Count: 5

Wrathchild - Another point! You're doing so well! Murder Count: 6

Murders In the Rue Morgue - Clearly. Murder Count: 7

Another Life - Sorry, can't let you have this one. Some people may consider suicide self-murder, but I don't think a lot would. Suicide.org, a suicide prevention non-profit, has an article pointing out the offensive nature of referring to suicide, often committed by someone who has an unfortunate mental illness, as "self-murder." Murder Count: 7

Genghis Khan - Definitely, Khan was likely up there with Hitler and Stalin in the murder count. Murder Count: 8

Innocent Exile - Hmm. Yeah, he is innocent, but there's "they say I killed a woman"… I'll give you another point, you'll need it as we move ahead. Murder Count: 9

Killers - I bet this song is about unicorns frolicking in a joyful rainbow meadow! Murder Count: 10

Twilight Zone - This is a stretch, but since he does contemplate "bringing her over," I'll give you this. Murder Count: 11

Prodigal Son - Yeah, Lamia was a murderer. Then again, the character never mentions murder among his sins "I've messed around with mystic things and magic far too long." I'll give you this one since it'll be your last on the album. Murder Count: 12

Purgatory - I'm sorry, but you absolutely cannot have this one. How many people, would you say, die from murders vs. die from natural causes? We cannot assume that a dead person was necessarily murdered. Murder Count: 12

Drifter - I'm a fan of how you said that Iron Maiden was on a "five album tear," implying every song on all five albums is about murder, and then you "forgot" to mention Drifter, which in no way can be construed to refer to murder. Actually, I'm rather disappointed that you didn't decide to make "sing my song" into a euphemism for "kill some people." Murder Count: 12

The Number of the Beast
Invaders - B…b…b…but this song sounds to happy to be about murder! But it is, so here's a point. Murder Count: 13

Children of the Damned - Another clear murder song. Murder Count: 14

The Prisoner - I really don't feel too sure about giving you "if you kill me… if I kill you," but I guess… Oh, that wasn't even the argument you made. Good job. No, I won't give you the assumption that he's killed people in the past, and I definitely won't let you piggyback on my argument. Murder Count: 14

22 Acacia Avenue - Oh, please. First of all, you clearly didn't read the lyrics, as it mentions Charlotte GETTING disease, not GIVING disease. Or we have some serious trouble telling the difference between a subject and an indirect object, but that isn't my problem. You absolutely don't get this one, just as you don't get Charlotte the Harlot for lyrics that show up 12 years later. Murder Count: 14

The Number of the Beast - This one is right on the borderline. I'm going to say NO. This is not about ritual killings in the woods. It is about Satanic cults in the woods. Murder Count: 14

Run to the Hills - Yes, this is about murder. A very regrettable historical mass murder, in fact. Murder Count: 15

Gangland - This is the best example on the album for you. Murder Count: 16

Total Eclipse - You absolutely do not get this one. If you argued that all the songs are about DEATH, I'd give you this one. Murder, no. You don't get the apocalypse as a murder. Murder Count: 16

Hallowed Be Thy Name - Hmm. Does execution equal murder? Since right now you've barely got two albums and we're through 3, I'll hand you this one, though I'm not sure you deserve it. Murder Count: 17

Piece of Mind
Where Eagles Dare - The song does not include a suicide. However, I'll go ahead and give you a "murder count" on this. Murder Count: 18

Revelations - Don't you dare take my favorite song from the classic era and pervert it into something that it's not. I haven't read your interpretation yet, bu-- Wow. You clearly do not understand the very concept of "symbolism." At least that wasn't as bad a hatchet job as I was expecting. Murder Count: 18

Flight of Icarus - Once again, I would like to point out what you claimed at the beginning of this poorly-thought out article. You claimed that every song on the first five Iron Maiden albums included murder. This song includes death. Death and murder are not the same thing. Murder Count: 18

Die With Your Boots On - Neither earthquakes nor starvation are murder. There is an argument to be made that this song involves murder ("predicting war for millions"), but you failed to make it. Murder Count: 18

The Trooper - Great song, isn't this one? Oh, by the way, here's your point. Murder Count: 19

Still Life - I… Don't… Believe… It. I am sorely tempted to not give you the point, because you failed to point out the obvious murder, which is that he drowns HIS WIFE. But since you mentioned drowning, and I'm starting to feel bad for you, losing so badly, that I'll hand you this one. Murder Count: 20

Quest For Fire - IN A TIIIIIME, WHEN DINOSAURS-- Sorry, what did you say? Oh, you say that you only read that first line? This song doesn't even resemble "cavemen vs. dinosaurs." The correct answer to "How can I twist the song Quest For Fire into murder?" is "The line 'Then the tribes, they came to steal their fire'" Murder Count: 20

Sun And Steel - "You killed your first man at 13," yes, you get this one. By the way, does anyone else think this one is underrated? Because I sure do. Murder Count: 21

To Tame A Land - Sorry, but your explanation doesn't cut it. As a defense attorney might say, but I'm not sure if they would since I'm not one, but I'll say it anyway, "assumes facts not in evidence." This song does not in any way mention murder. Murder Count: 21

Powerslave
At last. The last album of your weird claim. Just so you know, you currently have 21 songs in your count, after 4 albums. Which probably does not even make up 3 albums. More like 2 and a half. You're doing a great job so far. [Editor's Note: The previous line was sarcasm. Which means that he said the opposite of what he meant.]

Aces High - Before you claim this to be about murder, I want you to sing it. I want to hear you go into "ROLLING, TURNING, DI--" No? Fine, here's your point. Murder Count: 22

2 Minutes to Midnight - This one is definitely about murder, but your description of the doomsday clock… leaves something to be desired. Nevertheless... Murder Count: 23

Losfer Words (Big 'Orra) - You may have gotten the first three instrumentals, but this one absolutely is not yours. And then I read it and find out that you admit it's not about killing, contradicting your earlier claims, but that you dissed it! This is a bloody brilliant song! Which the band played live on a whole tour! Clearly they don't hate it! I love this song, so I'm tempted to take points from you, but I have to be objective, so I won't. Murder Count: 23

Flash of the Blade - Yes, a song about killing with swords. Which the band did not play live. Neither did they play either of the next two. Implying they like Losfer Words better. Just saying. Murder Count: 24

The Duelists - Definitely. Murder Count: 25

Back in the Village - The bombing makes it clear. Murder Count: 26

Powerslave - I'll have to say no. The pharaoh is dying, but cause of death is not mentioned. Murder Count: 26

Rime of the Ancient Mariner - A song about what not to do if your bird ****s on you. Also features Death killing pretty much the whole crew. Murder Count: 27
 
[Wow guys! :D --I'll read the above gigantic threads in a second...]

Having read nothing anyone has posted or the link, one problem stands out: "more successful" than Metallica? Based on album/record sales (claimed or certified from online sources), Maiden aren't more successful than Metallica. So this is attempting to prove something which isn't factually correct anyway...
 
[Wow guys! :D --I'll read the above gigantic threads in a second...]

Having read nothing anyone has posted or the link, one problem stands out: "more successful" than Metallica? Based on album/record sales (claimed or certified from online sources), Maiden aren't more successful than Metallica.
They are more successful when it comes to creating good music. ;-)
 
All right, maybe the more-successful-than-Metallica part is not that obvious, although I believe it is implied in the article, but the far-fetched links to murder and the ridiculous interpretations of lyrics still remain. The article is still unbelievably stupid.
 
I think it might win "stupidest criticism of Iron Maiden," narrowly beating out "HIDE THE CHILDREN! SATANISTS!"
 
This thread isn't nearly as interesting as I thought it would be when I saw the title. :p
 
I think quite possibly the most laughable connection was how Charlotte the Harlot is about murder because, "Prostitutes are often the targets of homicidal maniacs."

Or maybe the fact that he left out Drifter because he couldn't find anything to tie it to murder.
 
If we are going to argue about the Metallica-Maiden thing with reference to murder... how many albums have Maiden brought out called Kill 'em All? How many have electric chairs on their covers, or graveyards that continue into infinity?
 
Dave Mustaine. He claimed that Obama had "staged" the recent shootings in the US, as a means to pass tougher gun laws. :eek:

edit: Sorry, your question is already answered.
 
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