Fortunes Of War

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National days are nicely celebrated in all countries, but they also correspond to firecracker and fireworks season, which can be hard on a few people who have served in the forces, either in real war situations or in extreme training for those conditions.

Many who have been in the military know the terror of thunderstorms, construction blasts and fireworks, which can bring back painful memories. Although the scheduled fireworks sponsored by municipalities can sound like a firefight, most veterans say that it is the individual firecrackers and noisemakers that are the worst: they sound like gunfire, or sometimes shelling, and -- mostly! -- they're unexpected.

When you're sitting in the garden or somewhere in town with friends and a cold drink in your hand, and you're watching fireworks there's no mistaking where you are, but it can be quite unnerving all the same. Dogs, cats and humans are subject to the startle response and there's no denying that there is something deeper underlying this behaviour in humans. Dr. Larry Lachman, a licensed clinical psychologist who practices cognitive-behavioural therapy for patients with PTSD (Post-Traumatic Stress Disorders) explains that: "A person with post-traumatic stress disorder is exposed to a traumatic event that either involved the threat of death or great bodily injury to another or themselves -- from war, mugging, cancer, car accident. The person's reactions involve fear, helplessness or horror."

PTSD generally involves some various combinations of the following feelings: intrusive recollections, distressing dreams, feeling the trauma is recurring, difficulty falling or staying asleep, irritability and outbursts of anger, hypervigilance and exaggerated startle response. Exposure to fireworks/firecrackers that sound like gunshots or shelling can lead to a relapse or exacerbation of those symptoms.

This type of disorder is no more than an exaggerated and sustained enhanced fight-flight survival response that is conditioned to 'stay on' following day-after-day death, destruction, gunshots, bombs and explosions, which require the soldiers to be on constant hypervigilance to survive. This kind of behavioural conditioning won't go away quickly or by itself when returning home, especially if the subject is exposed to cues that trigger the body and mind's conditioned response for survival and fighting/being alert.

All that's left is to rationalise the situation and find some kind of 'displacement activity' that will take the mind away from the response and whatever caused it until it becomes just a 'bad memory'. Extreme cases may need professional help, but anyone with enough willpower can face the situation and realise that, although they may feel threatened, they are perfectly safe and have no need to react as if the threat was real -- because it isn't.


Anybody has any thoughts on this? As Perun would put it: "Discuss".
 
My aunt married this intellectual type like 10 years ago and he passed 5 years ago. At any rate, he was a WWII vet and he NEVER went to war movies like Saving Private Ryan. NEVER. He said the memories were far too painful, would remind him of his fallen buddies or worse, war (REAL war) itself.
 
That is very sad, I have always thought about, why do polititians take advantage on people that are trying to serve their countries?  Polititians should be the ones facing war horrors.
 
To be honest, I don't think there's any way to permantly overcome PTSD. Like you mentioned, Mav, the mind can be trained to disassociate the trigger (fireworks, lound bangs, etc. in this case) from the relived event.

As for how to actually do that, I can't be sure because I am neither a psychologist nor have I ever had to deal with one. I would assume the patient (let's be honest, PTSD is an illness) could try perform a distracting action whenever a PTSD episode is triggered. It seems to work quite well for smokers who are trying to quit. Whenever they feel the urge to light up, they train themselves to drink a glass of water, sing a song, or something. (I don't know the exact process, of course.)
Perhaps a patient could listen to pseudo-trigger sounds while a harmless cartoon plays on the TV. Eventually, those sounds might come to be associated with Bugs Bunny and Wile E. Coyote instead of the hell which is war.

PTSD is a silent killer for American veterans of the Vietnam War. The few times I've visited the USA (Boston, specifically) I noticed that there are men who returned from that war who are seriously messed up by it. Their experiences drove them functionally mad. There are still many of them living on the streets, unable to function in the society they thought they were defending decades ago....but I digress.

It should also be remembered that this disease affects not just people who have been in armed conflicts. Accident victims, abuse victims, people who've suffered natural disasters (the 2004 tsunami or Hurricane Katrina, for example). It's truely one of the most wide-spread and oddly taboo illnesses in this day in age.
 
As Bruce said before "Afraid To Shoot Strangers" in 1992 at Donington.
"War is started by polititians and ended by ordinary people who don't really want to kill anybody"

One of the most important quotes ever. And TRUE
 
Responding to the above, "All quotes oversimplify everything" - Me :D
 
Jake said:
As Bruce said before "Afraid To Shoot Strangers" in 1992 at Donington.
"War is started by polititians and ended by ordinary people who don't really want to kill anybody"

One of the most important quotes ever. And TRUE

I disagree. While many, maybe most now-a-days of people in arms forces don't want to fight (being most are of working class background and want a secure paycheck, healthcare and education), there are those that willingly join the army because they want to defend their country, they want to fight and die in battle...
 
Onhell said:
I disagree. While many, maybe most now-a-days of people in arms forces don't want to fight (being most are of working class background and want a secure paycheck, healthcare and education), there are those that willingly join the army because they want to defend their country, they want to fight and die in battle...
Well said Onhell.  With my blunt point and your further explanation, we might have gotten our message through :)
 
Maverick said:
All that's left is to rationalise the situation and find some kind of 'displacement activity' that will take the mind away from the response and whatever caused it until it becomes just a 'bad memory'. Extreme cases may need professional help, but anyone with enough willpower can face the situation and realise that, although they may feel threatened, they are perfectly safe and have no need to react as if the threat was real -- because it isn't.

I'm not sure that would be enough. As you said those people were conditioned to have a stress reaction and they need to be unconditioned. It sounds a bit like phobias. I know someone who suffers from a fear of birds (aviphobia ? avophobia ?) and she perfectly knows that birds are not dangerous and that they can't hurt her but then when she sees a bird in the street she immediately a typical phobic reaction. So it's like there was a gap between what she knows and what she feels. She tries now to face the situation and do as everything was normal when she sees a bird but that doesn't take the stress off. I agree with IronDuke to say that those people are ill and realising that there is no threat won't cure them because it stays on a conscious level whereas to get cured it should go on an unconscious level.
 
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