Bye Bye Iwo Jima!

Mmm...Donuts

Trooper
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070620/ap_on_re_as/japan_iwo_jima


Apparently with films like "Flags of Our Fathers, and Letters from Iwo Jima", Japan took the last straw and changed ol' Iwo Jima to Iwo To.
Iwo To was apparently the original name of this bloody WW2 battleground.

Here's some disapproval from a veteran , taken from the full article.

Retired Marine Maj. Gen. Fred Haynes, who was a 24-year-old captain in the regiment that raised the flag on Mount Suribachi, was surprised and upset by the news.

"Frankly, I don't like it. That name is so much a part of our tradition, our legacy," said Haynes.

Haynes, 87, heads the Combat Veterans of Iwo Jima, a group of about 600 veterans that travels to the island every year for a reunion. He is working on a book about the battle called "We Walk by Faith: The Story of Combat Team 28 and the Battle of Iwo Jima." He doesn't plan to change the name.

"It was Iwo Jima to us when we took it," said Haynes. "We'll recognize whatever the Japanese want to call it but we'll stick to Iwo Jima."

Personally, for me, changing a memorial for the soldiers is kinda alienating to the veterans, but since Japan can name its territory, I guess it's okay, the vets can call it Iwo Jima out of respect for the fallen , but Iwo To for vacations? 
 
Let the Japanese call their island as they please, I say. I mean, its only inhabitants now are 400 Japanese soldiers so its not like this will affect all too many people. Yes, it is a historic place, but so is Istanbul and it was called Constantinople before. Give it a few years and everyone will have forgotten about it.
 
The name change is also kind of a slap in the face for Japanese vererans and their families, as they suffered far worse casualties defending the island.
 
It'll always be Iwo Jima in the history books.  Nobody calls the last battle of the Byzantine Empire the "Siege of Istanbul".
 
LooseCannon said:
It'll always be Iwo Jima in the history books.  Nobody calls the last battle of the Byzantine Empire the "Siege of Istanbul".

Exactly, and why should Japanese officials care about what American veterans think? T
 
Natalie said:
...so is Istanbul and it was called Constantinople before...

Istanbul was Constantinople
Now it's Istanbul, not Constantinople
Been a long time gone, Constantinople
Now it's Turkish delight on a moonlit night

Every gal in Constantinople
Lives in Istanbul, not Constantinople
So if you've a date in Constantinople
She'll be waiting in Istanbul

Even old New York was once New Amsterdam
Why they changed it I can't say
People just liked it better that way

So take me back to Constantinople
No, you can't go back to Constantinople
Been a long time gone, Constantinople
Why did Constantinople get the works
That's nobody's business but the Turks

LooseCannon said:
Five words: "Fat Man and Little Boy"

Are you planning on dropping some more bombs? See, I thought those bad boys were kind of irrelevant these days.
 
Well, I guess Fat Man and Little Boy leaved a bit of a mark,
anyways, looks like the US military or some other department is on the hot chase for the guy
who taped the raising of the flag, who was KIA but body never found 9 days after he took the legendary photograph.
 
Mmm...Donuts said:
anyways, looks like the US military or some other department is on the hot chase for the guy
who taped the raising of the flag, who was KIA but body never found 9 days after he took the legendary photograph.

To clarify Donuts' statement:

The fellow who took the photograph, Joe Rosenthal, survived Iwo Jima. In fact, he only died last year (on August 20, 2006). Source

The fellow who filmed the raising of the flag, Bill Genaust, was killed in battle. It is known that he died in a cave, which then collapsed. The collapsed cave was considered too dangerous to open due to the risk of further collapse, so his body was never recovered. Since then, the exact location of the cave has been lost. Source
 
Byzantion-Nova Roma-Constantinopolis-Istanbul
St. Petesrburg-Petrograd-Leningrad-St. Petersburg
Zarizyn-Stalingrad-Volgograd
Fort Rouillé-York-Toronto
Christiania-Kristiania-Oslo
Nieuw Amsterdam-New York
Königsberg-Kaliningrad
Akmola-Astana
Iwo To-Iwo Jima-Iwo To

*shrugs*

Big deal.
 
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