Aeolis

Do you believe Aeolis is thousand_suns?

  • Don't know/Don't care.

    Votes: 4 30.8%

  • No, Aeolis is not thousand_suns.

    Votes: 1 7.7%

  • Don't know/Don't care.

    Votes: 8 61.5%
  • Total voters
    13
Perun

Perun

His name struck fear into hearts of men
Staff member
Dear members,

This is a post on behalf of the Moderator Squad.

As you will have probably noticed, we have a relatively new member here by the name of Aeolis. Some of you who have been with us for a while may have the same suspicion as the moderator squad, namely that Aeolis is none other than a member who used to post here as thousand_suns. Following many complaints from forum members and repeated rules violations, we have banned thousand_suns permanently. It was a long way until this step, and we did not do so without issuing multiple stern warnings and asking him to behave conforming to the rules. In total, the process of having him banned permanently took well over a month.

In the first week following the ban, he tried to return as "breeg06", "innerfire", "twisted_wings", "spiral_path" and probably some others that we can't remember right now.

Back then, thousand_suns neither understood the concept of a ban, nor did he realise that we were not kidding about us not wanting to have him here. His lack of insight displayed what cannot be called anything other than blatant stupidity. He repeatedly sent us emails asking us to lift the ban, without providing us with a proper reason to do so. In the end, we were so frustrated with him that we sent him a message reading You will never be allowed to post at Maidenfans.com again.  Ever.  You were banned for violating forum rules after repeated warnings.  This ban will never be lifted.

Even this did not deter him. Real World banned him on server level back then, and he still tried to log in every single day for several weeks. His stupidity was really beyond belief.

Now, we believe that thousand_suns has returned as "Aeolis". Aeolis' pattern of posting is identical to that of thousand_suns. His posts revolve around the same topics, he resurrects dead threads (some of which are three years old), posts the same sort of trivia question he used to, deletes and reposts his own posts to provoke reaction and so on. A quick IP check revealed that his IP is also from the very same range as the one thousand_suns posted from. Aeolis has so far denied that he is thousand_suns, but the Moderator Squad finds the evidence overwhelmingly convincing.

Apart from the fact that some of his posts have violated our rules, the very existence of his double-login and his attempt to evade his ban are already against our rules, and we are not ready to have games like that played with us. However, we only have much evidence that Aeolis is thousand_suns, but we do not have proof. That is why we want to hear your opinion on this. Do you believe that Aeolis is thousand_suns?
 
If he thousand_suns?

Yes I think so.

However, I have the impression that he is less annoying than before, he doesn't post those ancient news updates anymore. In what manner did he violate the rules (as the user Aeolis)?

Does it matter if he has improved his life? Can he still have a chance or is it simply: If we think he is the same person, it doesn't matter how he behaves, a ban can't be reversed?
 
Well, I am only asking questions... and doubting about this, myself.
I can imagine that the mods don't like to be played around with.
 
Let me remind everyone that thousand_suns was warned. He wasn't just warned - he was given a half-dozen written warnings, in private and public, before he was banned. He was given a firm list of things he was not allowed to do - and he did them anyway.

We banned him for life. For. Life. And he came back.  At least four times.

Let me be clear: I believe Aeolis is thousand_suns. We could have just banned him. But we respect you guys too much to do that. We're asking for input before we act. It's not a democracy, but we do have an oligarchical bend when we want to.
 
I don't really remember thousand_suns, though I am aware of the legend.  I went back and read Aeolis's posts, and most seemed normal, though there were a couple of odd posts, which I chalked up to a language issue, and the trivia question about Brazil and the World Cup was a bit deranged.  That said, he does not appear to be a particularly thought-provoking member of the forum.  If the mods are convinced that he is the same person based on the evidence, then I trust their judgment.  And, if they aren't willing to forgive his ban, then they should ban him.  It's not like we're depriving him of anything important, and I don't see any great loss to the forum if Aeolis is gone.  I'm concerned that it would be an unjust ban if it the mods turn out to be wrong, but based on Perun's post, Aeolis is also breaking forum rules regardless of whether he is thousand_suns.  (If he weren't breaking rules, then I'd probably feel differently.) 
 
If Aeolis breaks the forum rules, then he should be treated like others that do the same. But if he does not as the user Aeolis, then it must be proved conclusively that it is thousand_suns before action should be taken.

That said, the evidence is pretty strong - but not conclusive enough.
 
I just took a look to thousand_suns profile ans there was nothing showing that he is banned.
How can a (mere) member understand that some other member is active or banned ?? Or there is not a way to do so ??
 
I thought that thousand_suns was Perun, LooseCannon and Shadow, or something like that, I think I read that somewhere...
 
Right, we should explain that for the newer members...

t_s was a member who was legendarily annoying. After he was banned, the moderators played a prank with his account. We took it over and pretended t_s was back, as a prank on the members who most hated t_s. We revealed the truth about a week later.

That's why t_s appears to not be banned. The account is active, and the mods have the password. We just don't use it very often. When we do, it's always a joke.

t_s was banned at the server level. I'm not techie enough to understand that completely, but I know it means he couldn't access the site. Not even a 404 - he saw a message like the server was down. We had to do that because otherwise he just kept creating new accounts.


Edit: I just posted the above to make sure it gets in the thread. The following are my further thoughts on the matter...

Until a couple of days ago, I didn't want to ban Aeolis until we had proof that Aeolis = t_s. But then Aeolis did something which only t_s has done before: Aeolis deleted one of his posts, and immediately reposted the same thing... presumably looking for attention. I don't actually know if we have a rule against this, but t_s was ordered not to do this because it generated many complaints from the members.

Consider this action by Aeolis in the context of the following: Aeolis knows we think he is t_s. We asked him directly by PM, and he denies being t_s. But then he pulls a t_s signature move, from the same IP location as t_s. I now think Aeolis = t_s, and it gets worse.

I think Aeolis is getting bolder. Either that, or he is incapable of avoiding his old habits as t_s. Some here have wondered if he may have changed. If he had changed, then I'd be very uncomfortable with banning Aeolis. But recent events demonstrate that he has not changed.

Which means that I expect Aeolis to revert to full t_s mode shortly, and cause all the same problems he caused before. I expect that we will need to ban Aeolis sooner or later. But I have told LC and Perun that I leave the timing to them. Whenever they choose to do it, I won't object.

This is why I'm not voting in the poll, obviously. I left the choice to LC and Per, and they decided to put it to all of you.

What if I'm wrong? What if Aeolis never acts like t_s again? Then I'd still be against banning him. But I really don't expect that.
 
I have not read many of the threads that he posts in until now, but the 'NOW WATCHING' thread definitely makes me think that Aeolis = t_s.  Personally, I don't care how the mods vote.  But if he continues to make posts like on 'NOW WATCHING', I'd consider this spamming and it would be annoying.  Take that how you may.

BTW, I regret not being around for the full t_s is back joke!  I had to read it all after the fact.  That was a good one, guys!
 
Well, now I know the full story of the mythical t_s.
If he gets a little too annoying ban him. I don't see a reason to hesitate.
That way, even if he isn't t_s it won't be that bad.
If he tries to log in a thousand times after you'll know for sure.
 
When Thousand Suns was server banned, did you also issue an area ban? IP bans and area bans are different: An IP ban only affects the specific IP while an area ban would ban everybody in the area: Kind of like you'd ban everybody within the same zip code.
And: Could we get a 100% reassurance that this is not a mod prank? Say it isn't and I'll take your word for it.

Edit: I find it odd that he was registered for well over 6 months before he started posting. That is interesting. Thoughts?
 
This is not a mod prank.

I don't know. I think that RW only banned the ips because we didn't want to blot out all of South-East Asia.
 
Where is he anyway?
If there was a topic named "Mega" I'd go defend myself.
Suspicious.
 
I don't think he ever reacted to someone's reaction. He always responds to the content.

To me this "style" comes across as robotic.
 
t_s was a real person. I seem to recall he spammed my gmail begging to be allowed back.

Indeed, it was the emails that became the prime spark for The Great Maidenfans Prank.
 
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