News 18th Studio Album discussion

We don't really need anything, if they do a new album or they don't, it's what will be, will be. Having a pointless debate about it doesn't serve any purpose.
That was in essence the point. Reading lack of outright evidence to the contrary as an argument for "they will make a new album" is pointless. If it happens, it happens, but we aren't really seeing indicators of that. For all we know, they could announce a final show in 2028 and hang it up after contemplating the future post rfyl-tour in 2027.
 
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That was in essence the point. Reading lack of outright evidence to the country as an argument for "they will make a new album" is pointless. If it happens, it happens, but we aren't really seeing indicators of that. For all we know, they could announce a final show in 2028 and hang it up after contemplating the future post rfyl-tour in 2027.
I prefer Maiden saying goodbye at their prime, than continuing their career at any cost, even when their popularity fades, and they play small arenas again. It's better to end history on fire!
 
Why not discuss it, speculate, and see if we've interpreted the clues correctly?

Nicko could imagine recording a few tracks for the next album, as he mentioned in this recent interview.

Thanks for sharing. Nicko pretty much confirms that the Senjutsu tour would have gone over 2021 and 2022 if the pandemic hadn’t come along. I am still convinced they would have put TWOTW in the setlist for the LOTB 2020 tour. Senjutsu would have come out on September 2020 after the tour.
 
Also, now we know that at least Bruce is in favor of doing one more Iron Maiden album. As for the others, we already know what Steve has said-there doesn’t seem to be much enthusiasm on his side. I’d guess Adrian and Janick would be on board with the idea as well.

From Nicko's Blabbermouth interview:
"McBrain also talked about the possibility of MAIDEN making another studio album and the likelihood of him appearing on it. Nicko said: "Watch this space. That's a question mark. And I can't answer it, because I don't know. I did speak to Bruce [Dickinson, MAIDEN singer] — in December I [appeared at] a Monsterpalooza [convention] with him in California. And I said to him, 'Do you wanna do another record?' 'What do you think", he said, 'cause he is the baby of the band. He's got that baby gene in him. Look, he's just been in a studio and finished a new album, solo album, after 'The Mandrake Project'. But he said he wanted to do one, but he didn't know if anybody else wanted to. So that could change. That was three months ago. They obviously still talk to one another, and I don't see why not. And if they do, I would be delighted to go in and do a couple of tracks. I don't think I would do the whole album because [of] my handicap [following my stroke]."
 
Why not discuss it, speculate, and see if we've interpreted the clues correctly?

Nicko could imagine recording a few tracks for the next album, as he mentioned in this recent interview.

Interestingly, Nicko said he wanted to retire after the original SJ tour and only spoke to Dave about it. It seems the 50th anniv celebrations were already planned in 2018/2019.

He spoke to Bruce last December and asked him about new album - and Bruce said he wants to do, but not sure about the others. So still no plans? But that could change, three months later and especially next year. He doesn't see why not. He also said he doesn't think he'd play on more than a couple of songs.
But i doubt they want to record and album because rod said they want to tour. If they have 4 more years they are going to tour and play other songs. Thats my thought
Why more future tour/s now means no new music? And they could do a hybrid tour again. Otherwise what, playing the same old songs with no themes? RFYL Part 2?
They are old. They are retirement age and their whole personal Senjutsu PR was underwhelming to say the least. It didn't scream of enthusiasm, nor have they demonstrated publicly barely any nudge towards a potential album. Bruce's "retirement sucks!" quote thing regarding his solo records comes across as a definite pointer that Iron Maiden is closing in on ending.
All true, but what about Priest, Saxon. The SJ promotion was without Steve, but it was enough and one of their best, with Bruce doing the lot. Underwhelming? Enthusiasm is key, yes, Bruce is full of it. This quote from him is probably about Maiden, the ending is probably close, but it could also be like a reminder for them to make one more album.
The question is: Is a band still releveant to you without new music?
At this point of their career, yes, but they always say they don't want to be a cabaret act. And seeing how other old bands are still releasing new music more often. They earned it, ofc.
 
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Interestingly, Nicko said he wanted to retire after the original SJ tour and only spoke to Dave about it. It seems the 50th anniv celebrations were already planned in 2018/2019.

He spoke to Bruce last December and asked him about new album - and Bruce said he wants to do, but not sure about the others. So still no plans? But that could change, three months later and especially next year. He doesn't see why not. He also said he doesn't think he'd play on more than a couple of songs.

Why more future tour/s now means no new music? And they could do a hybrid tour again. Otherwise what, playing the same old songs with no themes? RFYL Part 2?

All true, but what about Priest, Saxon. The SJ promotion wasn't big, but it was enough, with Bruce doing it all. Enthusiasm is key, yes, Bruce is full of it. This quote from him is probably about Maiden, the ending is probably close, but it could also be like a reminder for them to make one more album.

At this point of their career, yes, but they always say they don't want to be a cabaret act. And seeing how other old bands are still releasing new music more often. They earned it, ofc.
SJ promotion wasnt big? With all the belshazzar fest and the writing on the wall video? Bigger than other albums
 
The promotion felt rather detached from the actual band members. Not that many interviews, and Steve for whatever reason stayed almost entirely away from the promotion.

When you say “from the (all) actual band members,” that is definitely not true. Bruce did a lot.
And with Adrian, I remember at least interviews with several German magazines.
 
I don’t know exactly where Senjutsu lands in my favorite IM list- it changes all the time anyway- but I think it’s great. If they have more album worth of song ideas even close to that level then I’d say them getting another album out before they ride off would be extremely important for me.

Although seeing them live in 2024 broke a 38-year drought for me, and I’m going to see them again in September so I feel fortunate to have seen them again all those many years since I was a 15 year old kid during the Somewhere in Time tour.
 
This quote from him is probably about Maiden, the ending is probably close, but it could also be like a reminder for them to make one more album.
I've said it before, but Bruce resurrecting his solo career out of nowhere was the biggest tipoff that the Maiden train is winding down. He'd seemed perfectly content to let it lie since doing Tyranny of Souls without even a tour, and suddenly--BOOM. Solo career kicking into its highest gear since 1998.

My current speculation on it is that Steve and the rest of the band have been non-committal about a new album since Senjutsu, and the biggest plan in the cards was the RFYL tour. So, Bruce saw the writing on the wall, basically said, "well, I'm not done yet," and started talking to Roy again about finalizing what would become TMP. As RFYL Pt. 1 progressed with Simon, it seemed Bruce was trying to get people fired up about the future with Simon, but Steve remained wishy-washy about albums and even making definitive statements on retirement. Maybe that's part of why they're taking 2027 off. Maybe Bruce said, if we don't have solid plans for the future, I need time to build momentum on the solo thing with the new album and tour.

In short, it's a frustrating time to be a fan. We all hope for a new album because others their age are doing it, yet we're all realistic and know some of the guys might be more interested in hanging it up. It leaves us in limbo guessing, but in the end, we're lucky. I remember an old interview during the No Prayer cycle where either Steve or Nicko said they couldn't imagine still be doing it ten years from then, and here we are 36 years later.
 
What I never understood about this story with Bruce's quote is why he put it publicly in the album credits.
If it is all meant the way we think it is, why didn't he send each member his album with a personal card saying “Retirement sucks” instead?
 
I think there will be one more album, and what now seems like hesitation from Maiden's side is in fact nothing but part of a profound preparation to do an OUTSTANDING last album. From Steve's point of view being so reserved as he is makes sense, since everything else would cause just more pressure than necessary. I think they want to end their career with a real masterpiece. And even if Senjutsu was great, I guess they want the final album to be even greater. No way they let their career just fade out.
 
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