RUN FOR YOUR LIVES 2025 Tour Thread *SPOILERS INSIDE*

I feel I should point out that Metallica's song rotation is in fact larger than that, because they don't stick to two static setlists but rather swap songs out with each date with various slots rotating between multiple songs, and on this particular run they've debuted "new" songs from the album mid-tour at random dates. But I'm sure their production is so minuscule that it's really easy for them to do that, unlike Iron Maiden, who have a scre

I’m glad Maiden doesn’t do this. I want to hear some of these songs I’ve never heard live before. I don’t have to worry when they come to the U.S. Seventh Son and Rime are switched out. Having a static setlist sets expectations.
 
Must be a sad life to complain about an arrow in a animation video.
Must be a sad life having to deflect valid criticism against the use of generative AI in art to defend your favorite band.

I love Maiden but the use of AI instead of real artists is a bullshit move and needs to be called out. Ridiculing the argument doesn't address it, nor does it make the criticism void. If you don't wanna talk about this feel free to ignore it, but don't patronize people for having principles and sticking to them. It's not a good look.
 
I like rotating songs when the whole process is well-thought-out. For example, Ghost are rotating Faith and From the Pinnacle to the Pit. They're equivalents. Both play the same role, they're both well-known, mid-tempo, heavier tracks. So it's okay to rotate them, it makes sense. Both have been included in most of the band's setlists in the past few years, they're not deep cuts. BUT at the same time Ghost are rotating Majesty and Call Me Little Sunshine - which is incredibly stupid since Majesty is a rarity and CMLS was played at every arena show on the previous tour.

So in Maiden's case - in RfYL tour case - I wouldnt' be against rotating the hits (for example 23:58->TETMD), but songs like Rime or Seventh Son should not leave the setlist, they're too important not to be included on any setlist of the tour.
 
This isn't a man's work. I assume that what the guy's holding is supposed to be a bow (a crossbow?), but... Well, yeah. Doesn't really resemble one.

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The ship itself changes its' appearance. Sometimes it looks like a ship you could see in the Pirates of the Carribean movies, sometimes it looks like an older ship from the Columbus era. The waves look weird as well. I haven't seen all of the new animations yet, but this one is definitely AI-made.
I assume it is supposed to be a crossbow (like in the original poem), but that does seem like a major error. I hope it's just a screw up on an animators's part, but it definitely looks like an AI forgetting to add the crossbow.

Personally, I will wait to express disappointment if or when it is confirmed to be AI. But yeah.... not a good look
 
IMHO the set-list is epic! Maiden love playing Aces High even if Bruce can’t quite belt it out like he used to. It’s one of many great and popular songs from that album.

Do not understand the AI comments at all. Various bands have been using AI and screens for 2+ decades while Maiden has stuck with curtains / tapestries that look great. Huge fan of the big screen and all the videos and animations for all the songs. For those complaining about AI, were you expecting them to film real mini movies for the screens, so something like Black Sails for Rime? I have not seen any complaining for 20 years of Maiden shirts having essentially a cartoon mascot Eddie.

Anxiously awaiting 2026 tour announcement.

PS - Metallica can’t hold a candle to Maiden, they have some good songs but the technical musicianship, themes, lyrics, and musics complexity are all JV vs Maiden. As well, Maiden has toured MUCH more extensively over the past 5/10/15 years so I don’t really care about Metallica playing in Dallas Cowboys stadium for 2 straight nights. All IMHO.
 
IMHO the set-list is epic! Maiden love playing Aces High even if Bruce can’t quite belt it out like he used to. It’s one of many great and popular songs from that album.

Do not understand the AI comments at all. Various bands have been using AI and screens for 2+ decades while Maiden has stuck with curtains / tapestries that look great. Huge fan of the big stern and all the videos and animations for all the songs. For those complaining about AI, were you expecting them to film real mini movies for the screens, so something like Black Sails for Rime? I have not seen any complaining for 20 years of Maiden shirts having essentially a cartoon mascot Eddie.

Anxiously awaiting 2026 tour announcement.

PS - Metallica can’t hold a candle to Maiden, they have some good songs but the technical musicianship, themes, lyrics, and musics complexity are all JV vs Maiden. As well, Maiden has toured MUCH more extensively over the past 5/10/15 years so I don’t really care about Metallica playing in Dallas Cowboys stadium for 2 straight nights. All IMHO.
I think you are conflating CGI graphics with generative AI, which are two completely separate things. Using CGI animation (what most of the animations they used on those screens) is absolutely fine and something they've experimented with since the 90s (at least in music videos).

Generative AI has not been around decades, it took off a couple of years ago. It's pretty much brand new technology, the way it is used currently, and it is often used at the expense of real artists. That's not cool.
 
I like rotating songs when the whole process is well-thought-out. For example, Ghost are rotating Faith and From the Pinnacle to the Pit. They're equivalents. Both play the same role, they're both well-known, mid-tempo, heavier tracks. So it's okay to rotate them, it makes sense. Both have been included in most of the band's setlists in the past few years, they're not deep cuts. BUT at the same time Ghost are rotating Majesty and Call Me Little Sunshine - which is incredibly stupid since Majesty is a rarity and CMLS was played at every arena show on the previous tour.

So in Maiden's case - in RfYL tour case - I wouldnt' be against rotating the hits (for example 23:58->TETMD), but songs like Rime or Seventh Son should not leave the setlist, they're too important not to be included on any setlist of the tour.
Its this kind of thinking that has been missing in Maiden's operation forever. Ever since they ended up with a gargantuan back catalogue and impossible setlist choices. Even one or two rotational slots would change a lot. As you write, equivalents could have been swapping one hit for another (eg. closing with Run to the Hills or Running Free, switching between them).

Instead, I think Maiden and Steve -- for all their immense talents -- actually just need the same exact setlist night to night to do their job. Spontaneity is not their strong suit as a band, maybe it compromises their sense of consistency in quality. That's my guess.
 
Its this kind of thinking that has been missing in Maiden's operation forever. Ever since they ended up with a garganthuan back catalogue and impossible choice. Equivalents, for example, could have been swapping one hit for another (closing with Run to the Hills or Running Free, switching between them).

Instead, I think Maiden and Steve -- for all their immense talents -- actually just need the same exact setlist night to night to do their job. Spontaneity is not their strong suit as a band, it seems maybe to compromise their sense of consistency.
I think that Bruce actually likes to rotate songs and experiment with setlists. His solo tour showed us that he has a more rock 'n' roll approach to the subject. IMO Steve is the opposite. He sticks to the setlist that he had approved before the tour even started.
 
I think that Bruce actually likes to rotate songs and experiment with setlists. His solo tour showed us that he has a more rock 'n' roll approach to the subject. IMO Steve is the opposite. He sticks to the setlist that he had approved before the tour even started.
I agree with that. I also disagree with Maiden's explanation that the stage show production blocks song rotation. Theres not reason not to leave one or two slots lighter on stage effects and open for rotation.
 
I agree with that. I also disagree with Maiden's explanation that the stage show production blocks song rotation. Theres not reason not to leave one or two slots lighter on stage effects and open for rotation.
My thoughts exactly. The only thing they needed to make rotations possible was having a few backdrops more. Or even a "blank" backdrop. I saw them perform The Number of the Beast with the TFF backdrop (ME 2014), so I don't think it would have been a big problem for them ;)
 
Nobody is comparing Maiden to Metallica, we just talk about differente setlist approach. I like how some people can be triggered just in normal conversation, like small kids.

I watch the video during World Magentic Tour about it. So if Metallica plays in London they would check what songs they played in last few visits in London and 2-3 songs they would rotate assuming that people in audience want to hear something fresh.

If they are playing first time in some city it will be more classic set list song. Also sometimes they are doing special one time show with greats set.

As a hardcore Maiden fan I would like that Maiden are doing that, at least something. Beacuse of nature of my work I am missing out almost every tour and as a fan I would like to have some proper live album from tours, and we dont get that. Also I would like to have one night celebration of some album like they could play smaller show in London for 40th years on TNOTB and streamed it as pay per view event.

But from Maiden we are not getting anything for fans. Only video games and beer. And as a fan that is pissing me off.
 
They royally fucked up Battery the other week there. The drawbacks of having a rotating setlist.
It is not a problem in setlist, it is problem because you have Lars in Kirk in the band :D

Cant imagine how they would sound with proper drummer like Eloy.
 
Must be a sad life having to deflect valid criticism against the use of generative AI in art to defend your favorite band.

I love Maiden but the use of AI instead of real artists is a bullshit move and needs to be called out. Ridiculing the argument doesn't address it, nor does it make the criticism void. If you don't wanna talk about this feel free to ignore it, but don't patronize people for having principles and sticking to them. It's not a good look.
I don't agree with using AI instead of valuing art made by real artists. That wasn't the point of my comment. The comment was just to highlight the fact that they're always looking for something to complain about.

I don't think using AI is a good thing. I thought the sound of the band and the band itself were more important. But in fact the whole experience should be taken into consideration.

I apologize if the comment sounded different.
 
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