The Point, Dublin 20/12/06

Raven

Ancient Mariner
Well, thought I might as well get this up to pre-empt mine, Hunny's and Conor's reactions to the gig later on today.

I will report back on Thursday, but for now I leave you with a resounding

MAIDEN!!!!!
 
I'm heading in to que up now, can't wait for this! Maybe I'll see a pesky little silky raven about the place, you never know....:p
 
Sorry, Hunny, didn't see you there (although I looked out for you - I guess you were near the front).  I won't do a review of the gig yet, as I couldn't be assed doing spoiler tags and thinking about what to write, so I'll do it after Earls Court...or tomorrow, when I'm not as tired.

Suffice to say, the gig was immense.  I was in the pit, and the whole crowd was well up for it (thankfully, as someone beside me pointed out, all the Trivium fans had pissed off after they left).  There was one guy beside me and my friend who must have known just as many of the words to the new albums as I did...we started a good few clap-alongs during
Benjamin Breeg
and
The Legacy
.

Bruce's speeches were also very good, and him downing a pint in one was priceless!  Anyway, more later.  Up the FUCKING Irons! \m/
 
Raven said:
Sorry, Hunny, didn't see you there (although I looked out for you - I guess you were near the front). 
I'll forgive you this time, just don't let it happen again. :p

One word can describe the gig: ZOMGtotallyfantabulousdeadlagesavaisteamazington.

I really enjoyed Lauren Harris, she's got some nice easy listening songs and she's very easy on the eye too.

Trivium were utter stool juice.

Maiden were unbelievable, every song was just done to perfection. I was 2 people from the front and could see the individual drops of sweat off the boys. It was my third Maiden gig, and the best yet. The only thing that spoiled it on me was the retards that surrounded me. None of them knew any of the words to A Matter Of Life and Death, or any of the other songs either, and two girls standing behind me just screeched their lungs out all night, and as a result my right ear is fucked today. Bruce told a very interesting story about a porn star that he met the night before and his chugging of the pint of Guinness was just masterful. A great night except for a few minor inconveniences.
 
Ok, im going to make an objective observation on the gig. Whilst very good, it was almost ruined by moronic kids moshing in the centre of the floor area. Security poorly struggled to maintain some sort of order, & most the audience (especially the over 17's!) suffered as a result.

This was the most rowdy crowd i have seen since about the mid 90's...it was also marred by people who kept walking in & out of the floor area during songs, i presume either to get another drink, have a piss or just plainly take the piss.


''SPOILER''

The somewhat selfish decision to play so few 'classics' didnt seem to bother most people, but why couldnt they have broken the set up with material from BNW or DOD?

*rant over*.
 
Superfly said:
The somewhat selfish decision to play so few 'classics' didnt seem to bother most people, but why couldnt they have broken the set up with material from BNW or DOD?

You make it sound as though the band owe you something; don't you think it's the other way round?
 
I arrived too late to get access to the pit unfortunately as my bus stopped for a few too many piss stops down the road <_<  It was a great night from the main floor area anyway, right up against the railings just right of centre.

The Lauren Harris band were much better than I was expecting.  Just plain old cheesy rock that was easy to get into as Hunny has said.  The guitarist wqas quite good but it was funny that as the spotlight went on him for the solos, most people were still looking at Lauren :wub:  It was also hilarious looking at the bassist headbanging with his straightened hair.

I went to the concert with an open mind about Trivium but they really disappointed me.  They bored the shite out of me and their "fans" did nothing but push around and look for trouble.  As Silky said, it was a good thiong that a few of them moved back before Maiden. Even the "boat rudder" song that I knew before hand sounded terrible live and the use of the F-word by Matt Hetfield was over the top to say the least.

The suspense was like nothing normal before Maiden came out.  Songs played throught he PA were starting ot get the crowd going and then "Doctor, Doctor" sent the place crazy.  The concert kicked off with a rather inaudible "Ayeeeee!" and we were off into a "Different World".  The sound was great except from the over-loudness of the bass drum and guitar.  Bruce was on top form for most of the night and the solos were spot on.  We moved into "These Colours Don't Run" which was recieved well, with the chorus getting a decent sing-along although the impression was left that not everybody in the audience was into it.

"Brighter Than A Thousand Suns" was the song of the night for me.  It was given a new birth live IMO and it just had to be heard to be believed.  In "The Pilgrim", Bruce made a mistake with the lyrics sayiing "Pagan sunrise, Pagan sunset" for the last chorus but it was still a great song none-the-less.  "The Longest Day" was also fantastic live and the back drop of the newspaper cutting worked well.

"Out of the Sadows" is definitely better live than it is in the studio, especially with the cheesy ending "A man who cats no shadow..."  :D.  Benjamin Breeg got the crowd going again, as it is probably the best known of the new material.  This was probably the best sing-a-long from the new album.  At this point, I felt the performance was beginning to wain a bit.  The amount of 6+ minute songs was tiring out the audience and "FTGGOG" and "Lord of Light" seemed a bit boring to be honest.  I think it would have been better if the band played "classics" in between the new material to break it up a bit as it got a bit tedious IMO.  The fact that I was pushed back a couple of places didn't help either.

None-the-less, the Legacy was fantastic and although I didn't know a lot of the words myself, a friend of mine told me that Bruce changed a lyric in one of the lines.

"Fear destruction and ignorance is leading to death"

If I thought that the new material was well recieved, it was nothing compared to the classics.  Fear of the Dark was just immense.  I would have a video of the intro to that had I not hit "back" instead of "save".  "Iron Maiden" was also good for the tank Eddie that appeared to survey the surroundings.  The encore was probably the highlight of the night.  Bruce sinking the Guinness was great and his story about the porn star was priceless.  "You dirty bastard" :lol: The three fantastic songs, the same as they have played on every other leg of the tour, were also greeted well by the crowd.  "Hallowed..." was quite a good closer too.

Overall, it was a great night although the pushing was a bit much at times and the bass mix was poor.  The choice of songs worked well but I think they should have split up the new material.  Fair play to the lads for doing something few other "old" bands seem to do... promote new material instead of only focusing on the classics.

If anybody has a link to an mp3 format bootleg, it would be very much appreciated.
 
Conor said:
If anybody has a link to an mp3 format bootleg, it would be very much appreciated.
I'll be trading for it next week, I'll sort you out then. ;) To keep you going, here is an early Christmas present, from me to you all.
 
Conor said:
I arrived too late to get access to the pit unfortunately as my bus stopped for a few too many piss stops down the road <_<  It was a great night from the main floor area anyway, right up against the railings just right of centre.

Hmm...I might have seen you during Trivium if I looked hard enough.  If you saw two guys about 5'10 sitting down at the back of the crowd during the latter part of Trivium's set, that was me and my friend getting incredibly bored... :D

And, since you missed your chance on a video of , there's another good one to supplement the brilliant videos Hunlord linked to.
 
*SPOILER*

That concert was undoubtedly the worst concert i've ever seen! Iron Maiden suck! How dare they play their new (rubbish) album in full! (Can you imagine if Elvis came back from the dead and pretty much just played some of the new material he wrote while he was away?)

3/4 old songs?!? WTF! They didn't even play them right - did you hear Hallowed..? Nicko has turned into such a bad drummer. I can't even bare to listen to the new album, let alone witness the sellout action. All the songs have the same predictable, but not in a good way, structure, and they'll all played at a pace which is uncomfortable, to say the least. What's the point in having 3 guitarists if you rarely take advantage of it. They think that just cause they're Iron Maiden they can write an album without doing much work. I like Dance of Death, it had some good songs, but this, this isn't Iron Maiden.

When I go to an Iron Maiden concert i want to hear some Iron Maiden songs! I suppose they can afford to dishonour their fans cos they have so many, well not as much now!

I will be selling all my Iron Maiden albums, preaching their disloyalty to their fans, and never listening to them again. You can be sure that i will never go to another of their concerts!

Booo!!
 
magic man said:
When I go to an Iron Maiden concert i want to hear some Iron Maiden songs! I suppose they can afford to dishonour their fans cos they have so many, well not as much now!
If you go to an Iron Maiden concert what else would you expect to hear?  :D  Anyway why would you consider it a dishonour to the fans if they played the songs which they are supposed to be promoting?
 
magic man said:
When I go to an Iron Maiden concert i want to hear some Iron Maiden songs! I suppose they can afford to dishonour their fans cos they have so many, well not as much now!

I will be selling all my Iron Maiden albums, preaching their disloyalty to their fans, and never listening to them again. You can be sure that i will never go to another of their concerts!

How dare Iron Maiden do something different!  You're right!  How dare they play anything other than a greatest-hits setlist, which they played last year, and at the start of the Dance of Death Tour, and in 1999!  And how dare they play songs from the new album live!  It's a disgrace that Maiden would dishonour their fans by doing what they want to do![/sarcasm]

Mate, I'm sure Maiden won't miss you.  And I'm sure their fans won't exactly be enamoured to hear your opinion...
 
magic man said:
*SPOILER*

That concert was undoubtedly the worst concert i've ever seen! Iron Maiden suck! How dare they play their new (rubbish) album in full! (Can you imagine if Elvis came back from the dead and pretty much just played some of the new material he wrote while he was away?)

3/4 old songs?!? WTF! They didn't even play them right - did you hear Hallowed..? Nicko has turned into such a bad drummer. I can't even bare to listen to the new album, let alone witness the sellout action. All the songs have the same predictable, but not in a good way, structure, and they'll all played at a pace which is uncomfortable, to say the least. What's the point in having 3 guitarists if you rarely take advantage of it. They think that just cause they're Iron Maiden they can write an album without doing much work. I like Dance of Death, it had some good songs, but this, this isn't Iron Maiden.

When I go to an Iron Maiden concert i want to hear some Iron Maiden songs! I suppose they can afford to dishonour their fans cos they have so many, well not as much now!

I will be selling all my Iron Maiden albums, preaching their disloyalty to their fans, and never listening to them again. You can be sure that i will never go to another of their concerts!

Booo!!
Why don't you just fuck off,  ok?  If you don't think Maiden's new stuff are Maiden-ish enough,  then I'd suggest you invent a time machine,  and attend past concerts!  You can have your own opinion on the new album,  but realize this...

MAIDEN ARE STILL HERE.  AND THEY DO NOT NEED ASSHOLES LIKE YOU TO TELL THEM THEY'RE DONE,  THEY STILL HAVE IT IN THEM. :mad:
 
SneakySneaky said:
MAIDEN ARE STILL HERE.  AND THEY DO NOT NEED ASSHOLES LIKE YOU TO TELL THEM THEY'RE DONE,  THEY STILL HAVE IT IN THEM. :mad:

And I think 8,499 Irish Maiden fans clapping and singing along to The Legacy, Brighter Than a Thousand Suns and For the Greater Good of God drives that point home.  If you don't like what they do, you don't have to go to the show.  Give your ticket to someone who really does want to be there, and appreciates their new material for what it is.
 
Alright, folks.  Stop making fun of Mr. Magic Man, and continue to discuss the topic like adults.  In the future, let's try not to respond to some obvious trolling in a manner such hellraisers certainly consider enjoyable.
 
LooseCannon said:
Alright, folks.  Stop making fun of Mr. Magic Man, and continue to discuss the topic like adults.  In the future, let's try not to respond to some obvious trolling in a manner such hellraisers certainly consider enjoyable.

Alright.

Well, I got my photos back yesterday, and while they aren't great quality (It was a crappy disposable camera I took them with), there are some good shots of 'Arry and Janick during The Longest Day and a good close one of Bruce (although his head is chopped off-I didn't realise I had gotten so close to the stage!).  If I get a chance to scan them, I'll put some of the better quality ones up (there are also 3 or 4 of Lauren Harris :wub:)
 
LooseCannon said:
Alright, folks.  Stop making fun of Mr. Magic Man, and continue to discuss the topic like adults.  In the future, let's try not to respond to some obvious trolling in a manner such hellraisers certainly consider enjoyable.
You're right LooseCannon,  but I just had to do it  :p.  It wasn't my day really.  Actually,  it's not the best time for me now,  and I took it out on that poor guy.  :(
 
magic man said:
*SPOILER*

That concert was undoubtedly the worst concert i've ever seen! Iron Maiden suck! How dare they play their new (rubbish) album in full! (Can you imagine if Elvis came back from the dead and pretty much just played some of the new material he wrote while he was away?)

3/4 old songs?!? WTF! They didn't even play them right - did you hear Hallowed..? Nicko has turned into such a bad drummer. I can't even bare to listen to the new album, let alone witness the sellout action. All the songs have the same predictable, but not in a good way, structure, and they'll all played at a pace which is uncomfortable, to say the least. What's the point in having 3 guitarists if you rarely take advantage of it. They think that just cause they're Iron Maiden they can write an album without doing much work. I like Dance of Death, it had some good songs, but this, this isn't Iron Maiden.

When I go to an Iron Maiden concert i want to hear some Iron Maiden songs! I suppose they can afford to dishonour their fans cos they have so many, well not as much now!

I will be selling all my Iron Maiden albums, preaching their disloyalty to their fans, and never listening to them again. You can be sure that i will never go to another of their concerts!

Booo!!

magic man is entitled to his opinion, & i dont think Maiden deserve to go without criticism for what they've done. Alot of people who bought tickets would not have done so if they had announced what the intention was prior to the tickets going on sale. I am a huge Maiden fan, & have been for years, but this tour has streched the loyalty of the biggest die hards. If people chose to boycott the tour to make a point i say good for them. Tickets are alot of money these days & it isnt fair.

I do disagree with m.m. about DOD, i did not like the album & i thought it was weak in comparison to BNW. I do however, really like AMOLAD, but the set needed more songs from their classic repertoire. It's disrespectful in many people eyes for the reasons i have stated.
 
There are a lot of fans out there who don't want to hear anything past Seventh Son played.  And while I can understand that attitude, I don't subscribe to it.  And the band has stated, over and over, that neither do they.  They play their songs for the fans of today's albums.  That's why I think playing the whole album was a brilliant, brilliant scheme.  I love AMOLAD, I loved DOD, and I loved BNW.  All the new, "Reunion", work has been over the top phenominal, better than their "Golden Years" stuff in many cases.
 
You know, this discussion -which I have read so many, many, many times before- is incredibly boring.
 
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