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The J.R.R. Tolkien Topic (publications and adaptations)

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Forostar, Dec 21, 2007.

  1. Forostar

    Forostar Conjure the Death Star again

    :yey: :yey:

    Jackson Back in 'Hobbit' Via New Line, MGM

    Del Toro linked to 'The Hobbit'

    Guillermo del Toro should be the right man! Excellent.

    Originally, back in 2007, this thread was especially opened because of the then forthcoming movie (cycle) for Tolkien's The Hobbit. For years it had the title "The Hobbit on the big screen!"

    Now I thought it would be appropriate to "upgrade" this topic to everything related to Tolkien. Books, films, games, you name it.
    Last edited: Feb 26, 2015
  2. Shadow

    Shadow Deluxe Edition Staff Member

    Great to see Peter Jackson's involvement is much smaller than in The Lord of the Rings. So maybe it'll actually be decent, though I doubt it.
  3. LooseCannon

    LooseCannon Yorktown-class aircraft carrier Staff Member

    Peter Jackson did many things in The Lord of the Rings that I didn't care for; however, visually, it was very appealing.  The CG was fairly good for the time, and the locales and costumes were absolutely stellar.  The casting was quite good.

    With The Hobbit being a much shorter story, it should not be too difficult to keep closer to the actual plotline.
  4. Forostar

    Forostar Conjure the Death Star again

    It was the best!

    I like everything Jackson did in the LOTR-trilogy, apart from certain changes in the storyline.
  5. Shadow

    Shadow Deluxe Edition Staff Member

    Oh, it certainly was. That's one of Jackson's problems, he's the kind of director who really should have been a visual effects supervisor. Not as bad as, say, George Lucas, but several steps down the path.

    What he fails at is directing characters. Even if you ignore a number of irritating changes to the plot, his version of The Lord of the Rings suffered greatly from bad characterization. It was lifeless, incoherent and unsubtle. An epic of such proportions requires a much more skilled director to do it justice.

    I'm not saying Jackson is terrible, but he is not a top class director and hopefully whoever does The Hobbit will be closer to one.
  6. Forostar

    Forostar Conjure the Death Star again

    I think he was the only director who proved to have the needed vison and overview (total navigation & control) of such a terribly big production. No one else has done it (and I doubt that anyone else can so easily). I also disagree with you on the cast. Full of life, subtle and coherent.
  7. Powergirl81

    Powergirl81 Trooper

    This should be nice. I LOVE the LOTR triology. I don't keep tabs on every last detail like some people here do ( :smartarse: you know who you are), but it should be great to watch the story about Bilbo and Smeagle and the very beginnings of the epic journey of the ring.
  8. Forostar

    Forostar Conjure the Death Star again

    I'm glad it will be 2 films. In this way, hopefully there will be enough time to follow the book well.
  9. Genghis Khan

    Genghis Khan Ancient Mariner

    Hell, I'll go see it.  I've read the book and even though it is not in my taste, I think the movie would be interesting.  I rather enjoyed watching LOTR trilogy, as well.
  10. SinisterMinisterX

    SinisterMinisterX Illuminatus Staff Member

    As long as Smaug is stupendously impressive, that's all I care about.
  11. national acrobat

    national acrobat Ancient Mariner

    I agree.

    I agree.

    I agree.

    nuff said.
  12. Onhell

    Onhell Infinite Dreamer

    I was hoping he would direct it, but oh well, I hope whoever does is up to the task. I agree with Forostar, Jackson was the only director to really take up such a massive project and did it well. I'm really looking forward to these two movies. I think it's rather sad that the truest version has been a cartoon...
  13. Shadow

    Shadow Deluxe Edition Staff Member

    An update from Total Film on the project:

  14. Deano

    Deano Ancient Mariner

    I am definitely looking forward to this installment of Middle Earth on the big screen. Granted, there were issues with character development in the LOTR trilogy but overall it was done very well. A great effort for a difficult project. OnHell is right on with his assessment of the best film we have out of this novel at this point. I am sure this effort will be exponentially better.
  15. Forostar

    Forostar Conjure the Death Star again

    "I loved this very Hitchcockian idea of a very proper, prissy character with a very limited universe being taken on a journey where danger and pain and loss ultimately enhances his view of the world. And that to me is a very, very powerful story…”

  16. Natalie

    Natalie Insect of Terror Staff Member

    Excellent news.Personally I liked what Jackson was able to do with LOTR, so I'm glad he'll be involved with The  Hobbit. And in total honesty, as long as Gandalf is played by Ian McKellen and Smaug is the most terrifying dragon to have ever been seen on screen, I'll be happy.
  17. Onhell

    Onhell Infinite Dreamer

    Pfft, you're easy to please :p
  18. Forostar

    Forostar Conjure the Death Star again


    I've thought about that as well. Gandalf, Gollum and Bilbo... Jackson connected faces to these characters, so it indeed would be a bit weird to see other actors instead.
  19. Onhell

    Onhell Infinite Dreamer

    Gollum was CGI though, so that's no biggie
  20. Forostar

    Forostar Conjure the Death Star again

    Well, a combo of acting and CGI. The CGI was just a layer on top of the real actor.
    Gollum's face, his movements and most importantly, his voice were all from the same actor. Without his contribution Gollum surely would change.

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