Iron Maiden songs that you flat out dislike?

I consider the hate on Angel and the Gambler just a mindless apeing mentality. Someone reads a heavily overblown comment on the song and how the chorus is repeated 40 million times and they pick up on that and repeat the mantra.
They love how they are aware of that the chorus is repeated a lot and are filled with joy to announce it to everyone that they do.
I think everybody who listened to that song the first few times did realize that the chorus was repeated a lot, but that doesn't indicate that it's a bad song. Besides it's a pretty unique song that is specifically written that way so it doesn't feel too weird that the chorus is repeated that much. It's the 'style' of the song. A very unique style. This is how I see it.

And besides all that, the melody in which the vocals are sang, verse and chorus are pleasing to hear and the backing rhytmn sounds uplifting as well. I can totally understand someone disliking the song but not when it's stated in a way like as if it may be one of the worst things humanity has ever done.

I agree with you completely. Repeating a line or an entire chorus is a standard in music, so it's not necessarily a sin if one song repeats it above average. I found The Angel and the Gambler didn't go overboard, as many other songs have. Again, I can point my barrels at the "popular" music heard on the radio at work, much of which is sloppily written, and in my opinion the "worst" of IM's music still trumps it.

Perhaps I'm accustomed to repetitive music, having grown up in the church, singing in a choir and playing in an orchestra, where poorly put together hymns and worship choruses repeating the same basic phrases were sung ad infinitum. That makes me a little more forgiving to a song like TAatG. Granted, it's far from the expected Maiden material, but a half decent ride on its own.

That and I take some personal relation to most of the lyrics.
 

mirtilo

Educated Fool
The short version of TAATG is funny to listen. Even with those tacky keyboards. It seems like a theme song of a game show.

But for me is still the worst song Iron Maiden has ever made.
 
The lyrics do not repeat, they alternate [EDIT: not in words, but in meaning]:
Don't you think I'm a saviour? Don't you think I can save you? Don't you think I can save your life?
vs.
Don't think I'm a savior. Don't think I can save you. Don't think I can save your life.

Once you grok that the song improves.
 
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Caveman Ninja

The Titanic doesn't fit inside
The lyrics do not repeat, they alternate:
Don't you think I'm a saviour? Don't you think I can save you? Don't you think I can save your life?
vs.
Don't think I'm a savior. Don't think I can save you. Don't think I can save your life.

Once you grok that the song improves.

...no they don't.
 

LooseCannon

Enterprise-class aircraft carrier
Staff member
Trying to reason on AATG being a good song is pure madness.
Most people agree that it is a poor song.

I think it's not a great Iron Maiden song, and a very large departure from the "Maiden" sound. But I still enjoy it. Great driving song.
 

Gk1

Here I sit in a serenade of glory!
I guess the song is not that disturbing now that VXI is not the last (most recent) Iron Maiden album. Back in the day this song was just embarrassing to say the least. And unfortunately this album did more or less show that Steve lost the ability to write any decent song structures.
 

The Flash

Dennis Wilcock did 9/11
The Angel and the Gambler has cringeworthy keyboards, sounds incredibly cheesy overall, has very little stellar musical ideas (if any) for a 10 minute song and yes, it's annoyingly repetitive. It's also too "happy" sounding, which I don't like in heavy metal. I don't mean happy in an "uplifting" way, an uplifting but not really happy sounding Maiden song is one of their great works (Wasted Years). But happy in a funny kind of way.
 

Viperlord

Nomad
I guess the song is not that disturbing now that VXI is not the last (most recent) Iron Maiden album. Back in the day this song was just embarrassing to say the least. And unfortunately this album did more or less show that Steve lost the ability to write any decent song structures.
Or, you know, instead of proving that Steve suddenly and permanently lost the ability to write good songs, maybe he just wrote a few weak songs and did a poor job of producing the record. But nah, it's not like he's written or co-written anything even remotely good at all for the reunion albums.
 
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Gk1

Here I sit in a serenade of glory!
Or, you know, instead of proving that Steve suddenly and permanently lost the ability to write good songs, maybe he just wrote a few weak songs and did a poor job of producing the record. But nah, it's not like he's written or co-written anything even remotely good at all for the reunion albums.

He actually hasn't produced anything up to his old standards for over 20 + years. This of course is not a conversation that can be held in a forum full of people that are die hard fans for the most part. All I said was that Steve is not that good with structures anymore.
 

Viperlord

Nomad
He actually hasn't produced anything up to his old standards for over 20 + years. This of course is not a conversation that can be held in a forum full of people that are die hard fans for the most part. All I said was that Steve is not that good with structures anymore.
The fact we're fans (so are you, as far as I can tell, so I'm not sure how this is a relevant distinction,) doesn't mean that posters who disagree with you lack critical thinking skills or are "forcing" themselves to love songs. Personally I think the idea that Steve's "old standards" were inherently better is nostalgic nonsense. But that's me; Dance of Death was my first Maiden album, so I've always liked this lineup at least as much as any other.
 

Gk1

Here I sit in a serenade of glory!
The fact we're fans (so are you, as far as I can tell, so I'm not sure how this is a relevant distinction,) doesn't mean that posters who disagree with you lack critical thinking skills or are "forcing" themselves to love songs.

I disagree.

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Steve once did songs like Infinite dreams,now he is doing songs like WTWWB and TRATB.
It is only in the Maiden forums where people would say the new songs are better.
Everything that was the essence of Maiden's music back in the day is for the most part missing from Steve's new songs. It is only hardcore fans who would like anything new.

So now we have single guitar melodies, neverending intros, repeated parts, non imaginative bass and drum lines, songs with double the length and half as many riffs...and we still love them. This is just not logical.
 
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Liveone

Nomad
He actually hasn't produced anything up to his old standards for over 20 + years. This of course is not a conversation that can be held in a forum full of people that are die hard fans for the most part. All I said was that Steve is not that good with structures anymore.

The idea that Steve is not that good at structuring songs anymore is incredulous.
Of course you are entitled to your opinion but I must disagree with it on this occasion.
I can point to numerous examples of excellent song writing by Steve since the reunion however WTWWB will suffice.
It's one of my favourite Maiden songs and as far as I'm concerned there is nothing wrong with the structure of the song.
It's typical Steve Harris song writing.
If you don't like it, then it's your choice.
 

desultory

1-2-3-compassion
I disagree.

EDIT

Steve once did songs like Infinite dreams,now he is doing songs like WTWWB and TRATB.
It is only in the Maiden forums where people would say the new songs are better.
Everything that was the essence of Maiden's music back in the day is for the most part missing from Steve's new songs. It is only hardcore fans who would like anything new.

So now we have single guitar melodies, neverending intros, repeated parts, non imaginative bass and drum lines, songs with double the length and half as many riffs...and we still love them. This is just not logical.

You speak the truth, man. Comparing Infinite Dreams and When The Wild Wind Blows is like comparing refined sugar and pure manure.
The latter is a song I dislike to be topical here.
 

frus

Barbed Wire Hen
The band as a whole is summed up in this song and Phantom of the Opera, in my opinion.

is it "summed up", or is it "least common denominator"?

I like The Trooper, but even more some one-of-a-kind songs that are in some way unique in their catalog
 

Brave New Pilgrim

What not to do if your bird sh#$% on you....
I disagree.

EDIT

Steve once did songs like Infinite dreams,now he is doing songs like WTWWB and TRATB.
It is only in the Maiden forums where people would say the new songs are better.
Everything that was the essence of Maiden's music back in the day is for the most part missing from Steve's new songs. It is only hardcore fans who would like anything new.

So now we have single guitar melodies, neverending intros, repeated parts, non imaginative bass and drum lines, songs with double the length and half as many riffs...and we still love them. This is just not logical.

Your reactions to people having different opinions than you regarding Maiden amuse me to no end.

Incidentally, Steve also once did songs like Quest for Fire, but I don't see you mentioning that.
 
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