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Probably a bit late in the thread, but how is Fear worse than No Prayer?
Cos it has Fear is the Key, Weekend Warrior, The Apprition and From Here To Eternity. No album could survive such mediocrity. Its the bands worst album by some stretch
I prefer many of the songs on No Prayer by a long shot. Even the worst moments aren't as bad as the worst parts of Fear. No Prayer is also a more focused effort. It might've been a career misstep, but they at least achieved what they set out to do. FOTD on the other hand just sounds directionless and several songs sound like they're not even trying.
I think that's what it comes down to for most people. The best moments on Fear are probably better than anything on No Prayer, but for me that's only 2 -maybe 3- out of 12 songs. No Prayer doesn't have anything at the ATSS level of greatness, but it also doesn't sink to the levels of Weekend Warrior or The Fugitive. I suppose for those who prefer FOTD it's often a matter of the moments of brilliance outweighing the mediocre moments. For me they don't.At least Fear has signs of Maiden's brilliance thrown in there at times
Good comparison. Although I'd take Roll the Bones over FOTD without much thought. The first 4 or 5 songs are really solid. Still one of the weaker Rush albums. I can really relate to the Presto/No Prayer comparison though because Presto is an album that isn't the sort of music I want to hear from Rush, but I still can't help but thoroughly enjoy it. Not a single song I dislike. Same with No Prayer.Powerslave is my favorite maiden album. So theres that.
No Prayer/FOTD are a lot like Presto and Roll the Bones by Rush. They were kind of needed direction changes for the bands and I appreciate that. However Presto/NP have strong moments for me which outweigh the mediocre and I appreciate the soundstage they were individually trying to achieve. The latter two for me have some of the weakest moments in each bands respective catalogs and for me, represent the points where I jumped off the train for both bands.
I have to disagree there. There are countless albums that fail mainly because the band wasn't capable of achieving what they wanted to at the time. Either they don't have the resources, the creative skill, or they find themselves straying away from the initial vision. SSOASS is a good example of a half baked idea. But it's less a criteria of quality and more just giving them credit for putting in effort, which is more than what I can say for my impression of FOTD. SSOASS is still far superior to No Prayer, no matter how half baked.Are you?
Slightly off topic, "they at least achieved what they set out to do" is no criterion. Most artists have to change their original ideas during their working process to improve the result.