Heavy metal and violence: More than a myth?

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LONDON, England (CNN) -- Violence and heavy metal seem to have been inextricably entwined since the dawn of the metal genre.

Judas Priest, Marilyn Manson and Black Sabbath are just some of the household metal names to have come under public fire for supposedly inciting teenagers to commit murder and suicide.

It's a fire the international media has been happy to flame, quick to draw links between various acts of savagery and heavy metal even if, as in the case of the Columbine shootings and Marilyn Manson, evidence points to the contrary.

For anthropologist, documentary filmmaker and self-confessed "Metalhead" Sam Dunn, heavy metal is often used as a scapegoat to distract from the thoroughly more complicated societal problems surrounding such incidents.

"I think people look at heavy metal and label it for all sorts of things because we need easy answers to complex questions," Dunn says.

"I think that it's easy to target a heavy metal band for inciting violence or making kids turn to a cult than it is to actually look at real problems in the real world."

It's easy to see where the journalists, parents and religious groups get their ideas from.

A quick scan of the lyrics of any heavy metal band worth its salt will often reveal some gasp-inducing subject matter.

For instance in his film "A Headbanger's Journey," Dunn quotes some of his favourite lyrics by a metal band called Autopsy: "Burning from the inside out, bloody foam spews from your mouth, smell the putrid stench of flesh, as it burns you to your death."

Not the sort of poetry to be quoting to grandmother over lunch, but can such ludicrous gore really incite people to violence, not to mention murder?

As one young Norwegian metal fan told the UK's Guardian newspaper: "It's all fantasy, none of this is real, you can't take this seriously, it's just like a movie."

But compared to some of the images filling our cinema screens -- The Devil's Rejects, Wolf Creek, The Passion of the Christ to name a few -- even Autopsy's lyrics seem a little tame.

"I have listened to enough metal for me to essentially be a serial killer," says James McMahon from UK music magazine NME.

"But there's something in me that says no, that's not what I believe life is about. Serial killers existed before Slayer, you know."

"I'm a big fan of horror movies but Hostel, Saw, those torture porn films, I found myself repulsed -- metal is pantomime comparatively."

As Alice Cooper quips: "There's more blood in 'Macbeth' than in my shows and that's required school reading."

For metal musicians, death, blood and mayhem, in its various guises, are all simply part of the act, part of "the show."

"I think it comes from being a child of the '70s," says Iron Maiden's lead singer Bruce Dickinson. "I was brought up on Hammer horror movies and things like "The Devil Rides Out," classics like that."

"So while we do the devil type things, it's done... I wouldn't always say in a tongue-in-cheek way, but there is an element of it. It's done with a view to storytelling and drama, with a bit of dressing-up going on."

Iron Maiden has also endured its fair share of controversy. The title of its 1982 album, "The Number of the Beast," and repeated use of "666" in the titular track's chorus had America's religious right up in arms.

They accused the band of being devil worshippers, Satanists and of "trying to pervert our kids."

"When I play that song I think, well, ok, this isn't glorifying the devil, because that's certainly not what I would do," says Iron Maiden drummer Nicko McBrain, a born-again Christian.

"It's making an awareness that yes he's out there, and you've got to be aware. There is a man with 666 tattooed on his noggin somewhere."

Ironically, the fundamentalist reaction to "The Number of the Beast" packed out Iron Maiden tour gigs in every American town they visited. Kids squeezed into arenas desperate to see what was scaring their parents so badly.

Despite this marketing draw, Dickinson is keen to distance Iron Maiden from the violence for violence's sake approach practiced by some of his contemporaries, such as musicians from the extreme Black Metal and Death Metal sub-genres.

"We're not interested in being extreme," he says.

"We're interested in being interesting and in animating people's imaginations with the stories that we tell and the songs."

It's an approach that chimes with what one female Iron Maiden fan, Ruth, tells us, "I really don't see any violence in the fans and I have been to loads of their gigs," she says.

"I am in a tiny minority of women, in a room full of men wearing black -- which should seem scary, but it totally isn't. The men hold doors open for me and apologize if they bash into me. They are basically really meek and polite."

So while upside-down crucifixes, homicidal zombies and lashings of blood might continue to fuel our preconceptions about heavy metal music, it's worth remembering, appearances and reality can be very different beasts indeed.


Source: James Donkin for CNN
 
Headline does not equal same as story.

The headline seems to insinuate that yes, it is more than a myth.  When in reality...no.  No it's not.
 
The headline simply asks an open question. The body of the article answers it. Simple, really...  :smartarse:
 
Well, it definitely fits into the category of media abuse as defined by Drew Curtis.  Average Joe will see the article and think, "Oooh, what Satanistic things have those golly-gee-darned heavy metal bands been up to!"
 
That's a very common allegation, and many people I know refer to my music as noise or something similar. From my own personal experiences, heavy metal isn't satanic at all in general, and I admit I thought of that before when our school announced "satanic bands" , which weren't very satanic at all when I listened to them. It really pays to keep an open mind and respect the person and his true colors. It's a great article.
 
I read it too, and the article was very good compared to some of the crap I have seen about metal in "respectable" news sources.  The title was quite misleading, though, if you ask me.
 
Invader said:
The title was quite misleading, though, if you ask me.

I think it was its purpose.

It's a journalistic trick to use a "catchy" title that should -- in principle -- incite the reader to go through the whole paper.


Here's an example off the top of my head:

Iron Maiden is a satanic band indeed!

Blah blah blah... Satan, also known as Lucifer, the bringer of Light... Blah blah blah... Iron Maiden's lyrics are indeed bringing light, thus enlightening us to topics we'd never have thought about if their thought-provoking lyrics hadn't mentioned them... Blah blah... In this respect, Maiden is truly a satanic band.

</tongue-in-cheek>

Got it?  :smartarse:
 
And I agree with you, mate, that it is the purpose of the title.  However, that doesn't mean it's a good title - or is it a sign of where "unbiased journalistic integrity" has gone in the US of A?
 
A job is only as good as others perceive it. You don't think the title's good, I don't either, and a few other people don't think it is either... So it's probably a tabloid-type crap title. The article, however is rather excellent... so we shouldn't take things at face value and maybe go a bit deeper.

A better title -- in my view anyway -- could have been: Heavy metal and violence: Where does this myth come from?

Then again, I'm no journalist.
 
The problem is that though the article is very good, most people will read only the title and deduce that "it's just another article telling the truth about those crazy metalheads", and proceed to reading something else.  So its overall impact may be actually negative, though you could argue that the title is only supported if the reader believes in the stereotypes already.
 
I don't know if that is so true.  Many people that believe that stuff already are always looking for more 'reliable' sources to back up what they think.  So, its possible that they would read that, and either blow it off or, maybe, have a slight change of mind.  (A good bonus)

As to the ones that don't believe it, they (people like us) will read it to see what rubish it is, and be thankful that it provided an intelligent read.

It does as a journalistic title does: insites some sort of feeling, whether it be outrage or anticipation. 
 
Invader said:
though you could argue that the title is only supported if the reader believes in the stereotypes already.

Hence my example.
 
wasted155 said:
It does as a journalistic title does: insites some sort of feeling, whether it be outrage or anticipation. 

Edward R. Murrow respectfully disagrees with this sentiment.
 
Regardless of the value (or lack thereof, perhaps) that the title brings, I thought the article was brilliant.  Any bit of information that asks intelligent questions and debunks myths about heavy metal are excellent, in my view.  The sentence " 'I think people look at heavy metal and label it for all sorts of things because we need easy answers to complex questions,' Dunn say" is a great sociological analysis.  "Serial killers existed before Slayer".  Indeed.
 
"We're not interested in being extreme.  We're interested in being interesting and in animating people's imaginations with the stories that we tell and the songs."

Damn, my admiration for Bruce seems to grow every day.

And this one too:
"There's more blood in 'Macbeth' than in my shows and that's required school reading."
 
It was a very pleasant read indeed. I also liked the quotes by the artists. I remember when the Columbine tragedy happened and Manson was being blamed he said, "That house that has my cd's is a house that also has a Bible and two parents that should take better care of their kids," or something to that effect.
 
Warhurst said:
If we are all finished with the title. We could begin discussing the post itself.
The article really says no more than we already know and think. All we can say is - I agree.

It could of been given a slightly different edge if they had some opinions of people that actually claimed that violence in people is a result of them listening to metal. Just to see how they come to these ideas.
 
What gets me about this article and all like it is the fact that it is there itself. I have seen sooooo many more articles directed at, one way or another, Heavy Metal being in some way responsible for violence, than I have seen articles holding Rap and Hip Hop responsible for the same. I don't have to say this here, but I will for arguments sake: Heavy Metal lyrics are mostly fantastical and conjure images of brutality that are rarely witnessed outside of comic books and horror movies, pure imagery. Rap lyrics often describe now the artist did/would/should shoot or stab a rival; how to conduct a proper drive by shooting; how to score your drugs and a kill all in the same transaction; so on and so forth…..

I submit that there has been way more violence done and murders committed because of the influence of Rap music than from Heavy Metal influences, way more............
 
Deano said:
I submit that there has been way more violence done and murders committed because of the influence of Rap music than from Heavy Metal influences, way more............
Hold on a second there.  I don't think it's right to even blame acts of violence on any kind of music.  Neither Metal nor Rap (hip hop whatever :P) should take the blame.  It's just music.  If someone is stupid enough to misinterpret the lyrics (and that includes rap lyrics) then that person has some serious problem.  Just because Rap lyrics appear to be about how someone "did/would/should shoot or stab a rival" it doesn't mean it actually encourages that.  If that be the case,  anyone who listens to Iron Maiden's Killers should grab an axe or knife and kill someone (you can hardly say that this song has comic book/horror movies images,  and there are many more metal songs that don't).  From what I've come to understand about rap is that the lyrics are inspired by true stories (ok forget the ridiculous 50 cent lolly pop shit :P).  Stories that the artists have witnessed in their lives while growing up in dangerous neighborhoods (ghettos for example).  Nothing wrong with that. 
 
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