Can heavy metal singers actually sing?

Now, that is fascinating. I imagine if she had heard Rob's recent stuff she'd re-evaluate which of the five she'd want in her studio.
 
I think they could've picked better tracks for Bruce and Dio. Number of the Beast has a good Bruce performance but it's no Where Eagles Dare/Rime of the Ancient Mariner/Infinite Dreams/Revelations/Hallowed Be Thy Name.
 
Yes, I would rather hear her opinion of Heaven and Hell and Revelations, to be honest.
 
I actually sent her a message kindly asking if she would take the time to review Hallowed Be Thy Name, which is, in my opinion, one of Bruce's best Maiden vocal performances.
 
Is this serious?

She analyzes Halford when playing a Priest song recorded in 1975(!) and says:

.... He is the only one of the five who I truly wish would visit my studio some time.

Look, right now we live in 2010. We're talking about one of the best and most experienced singers in the metal genre. Sure, everyone can still learn, but she talks about him like he is still as unexperienced as in 1975.

I bet Halford could even teach this girl a trick or two.

If she wants to make a link with her own business she better should have selected a more recent track. This is a weird perspective.

Don't get me wrong: I do not mean to say that Halford's singing is worse than now. For me that's not the case, I love his singing on the old stuff. Already an amazing talent with an huge range, feeling and power.
 
Remember, Foro, that she didn't know anything about these songs or singers (read the second paragraph of the text).  She asked about Ozzy "how long did his career last?" 

But anyway, thanks for this wsoul1.  An interesting read.
 
Invader said:
Remember, Foro, that she didn't know anything about these songs or singers
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Which isn't handy (and looks a bit foolish) when you make references to your own current business. That was my point only.
 
I doubt that metal singers are her actual business. It sounds like she trains people to sing classically - ie, for opera.
 
Forostar said:
She analyzes Halford when playing a Priest song recorded in 1975(!) and says:

.... He is the only one of the five who I truly wish would visit my studio some time.

Look, right now we live in 2010. We're talking about one of the best and most experienced singers in the metal genre. Sure, everyone can still learn, but she talks about him like he is still as unexperienced as in 1975.
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Judging by the article and the introduction, she didn't even know the song was recorded in 1975.


Anyway, that was a very interesting and even insightful read. I always had similar feelings about all five of those singers, but I could never found them in any reasoning. It's great to have this confirmed by an expert.
 
Expert or not, I thought it was quite Sarah Palinish, to expel the idea that those songs could be older than recent.

Perun, do you agree with her negative comments about King Diamond and Ozzy? I do.
 
Ozzy was not a "skilled" singer at all in his early career. Judging his chops off War Pigs isn't fair.

With the other singers, there may be better songs - but the songs chosen aren't bad for displaying what those singers had at the time.

For Ozzy, his solo albums generally contain better singing than the Sabbath stuff.
 
It is obvious to experts and casual listeners a like that Ozzy isn't "skilled." What he has is conviction, emotion and energy... perfect for Metal :D I've seen countless behind the music shows to know bands rarely picked their frontman due to vocal ability. More often than not they went for presence and energy.

@Foro, I don't think your assessment is fair either. As others have point it out. She was just given a track and asked to assess the singer, not being told who he, the band or what year the song was from. I find it highly unlikely if she has any knowledge of Heavy Metal/Rock outside of what she might encounter casually. Her job is classical music.
 
Perun said:
I always had similar feelings about all five of those singers, but I could never found them in any reasoning. It's great to have this confirmed by an expert.
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Exactly. Not that I need to have my tastes analyzed and affirmed by an expert, but it sure feels nice!  For instance, she would probably tear Dave Mustaine apart, yet he fronts one of my favorite groups and is enjoyable because of the personality he injects into the performances, not necessarily technical vocal chops.
 
Onhell said:
I find it highly unlikely if she has any knowledge of Heavy Metal/Rock outside of what she might encounter casually. Her job is classical music.
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If you had to judge something, and you were not told how old it was, would you erase the possibilty that it could be (much) older than recent? She did and I find that a bit dumb, whatever her job his.
 
She was just given the songs with zero justification behind them. If she's never heard them before, then how is she to know? The idea is to get a pick of the songs in a vacuum. A complete new opinion on these singers to see what she thinks as a trained professional. I don't see anything wrong with it at all - I find it to be refreshing.
 
Personally I'm a big fan of Bruce and Dio and have always felt that they had very similar vocal qualities as heavy metal vocalists, which is why it's intriguing to read through that article that the voice coach compares them similarly. Sort of validates my opinion. I've actually been looking far and wide for similar vocalists: Powerful yet controlled vocals with a warm and vibrant upper register that doesn't become cold and shrill. Any recommendations? :bigsmile:

As for King Diamond, I never really liked him because he does sound boring to me. Also because his vocals are way to high and piercing for my taste. I feel the same about Halford, but to a lesser degree.

Ozzy, I'm quite indifferent towards him as a vocalist, but his style suits Black Sabbath very well.
 
We don't need a classically trained singer to tell us that Ozzy Osbourne can't sing. I can't listen to Black Sabbath because of him, his voice spoils the music for me completely. I can only listen to Dio's Black Sabbath.

That was certainly an interesting article. I would like to hear what she has to say about other metal singers such as James LaBrie or Hansi Kursch.
 
I wonder about Matt Barlow too. He's a great singer based on his power and emotion rather than his technicality, which makes me think that she'd slag him off.
 
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