A private unofficial secret facebook group for wanting FTTB

Helmuth Von Moltke said:
All that has happened is this...

IMFC probably had an idealised version in their head that the FTTB winner brings a pal and the two rock out

What has happened instead is the 'plus one' has created a barter black market of trading spare places

The law of demand and supply have asserted themselves, as it does when there is a scarcity (eg the fabled trading of cigarettes in prisons). I agree that the entitled FTTB crowd are nauseating, but there is no way IMFC can police the 'plus one' or 'swapping shows' barter market. I've had super FTTB experiences like Newcastle 2016 and Brisbane 2024 but there are plenty of annoyances with the way fans redistribute it for sure.
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Yes, it's a sort of black market

Say you got a spare for FTTB, i be your plus one if i buy you a event shirt + beer

Before they had a open facebook group open for everyone with around 4000 mebers. But problems with scammers apparently

Then another person created a new facebook group with 2400 members

Nothing of this can be found on the official IMFC forum, they are hiding it, keeping it secret for everyone else

That's why they banned me from the forum, you are not suppoed to talk this for everyone to know!

Biggest different with facebook group and IMFC forum

On the facebook groujp people are nominated their FTTB buddies, you hardly see any FTTB buddies recommendation on the IMFC

imagine if someone started a new presale service for tickets, not in public for everyone, you have to find and join a unofficial private hidden facebook group be part of that presale, would that be ok?

For my opinions i have written here, they banned me for over at IMFC, so much for free speach!

If a person always begs i want your FTTB pus one, never give FTTB plus one to somebody else, what makes that person what?
 
Lego said:
So essentially what you're saying is that the IMFC needs to regulate how individual people pick their plus ones? That's completely asinine.

Just go to the gigs, have fun, and MAKE FRIENDS WITH PEOPLE. You catch more flies with honey...
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No, im not saying thatt the IMFC needs to regulate how individual people pick their plus ones?

I'm saying, why keeping a wantinglist trrading place unjofficial private hidden for everyone else not knowing it exsists?

Did you know it excisted before i wrote about it?

They had a first open facebook group with 4000 members, all of sudden that group went unactive, then i found the other new facebook group, which was open for everyone, then become private hidden.

Is that on same terms for everyone wanting FTTB?
 
This is the first FTTB fb created, open for everyone do requests for spares for FTTB, but no wanting lists can be found!

Facebook

www.facebook.com www.facebook.com

This is the new one, at first it was open for everyone like the other one. Then it became private, you need to join group to get in.

It was created july 18th 2023

Facebook

www.facebook.com www.facebook.com

When they created the new private hidden fb group they didn't informed the other fb group, hey guys we moved to this new place, come here

This you either can't find on the IMFCforum

Why they keeping it unofficial private hidden for everyone not to be found talk discuss about at the IMFC?

If you talk about the private fb book you eventually will be banned, they don't like people talking open about it at IMFC!
 
BludBrutha said:
It’ll be exactly like the Maiden reddit group - totally over-modded by a group of neckbeards and incels.
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Yeah, so i noticed

Some things you are not allowed to talk and discuss about

Some people were complaing the megadeth fans was letting in earlier to the venue than the maiden fans at the first LA Show

I posted information from MEGADETH VIP letting fans early entry to the venue

Then their mod squad TP started picking fight on me, was upset bitter angry... for what? That i posted information why MEGADETH VIP also got early entry?
 
One example how some people always having FTTB multitimes

This guy with the "Maiden FC" flag, best sport on the rail twice on 2 differnt shows, i wonder how? You need to have 1-10 of "random numbers" be there!

If you complain about this, everyone gets angry upset, tellsl you to shut your mouth not talk about this!

Becouse obviously it's on same terms and fair for everyone, small group of people has the privilege advantage increase their chances having FTTB over eveyrone else!

Facebook

www.facebook.com www.facebook.com

Facebook

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Same guy with the Maiden FC flag can be found on the unofficial private hidden fb group

Facebook

www.facebook.com www.facebook.com

On that group pic you alse see the woman that is the boss for FTTB on that fb group!
 
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The most unpleasant thing about FTTB is this so-called unofficial local organizer, Charlie Colter. Do any of you know him? I find him to be a totally weirdo. Supposedly, he’s a "super-fan" who travels the globe - refusing to miss a single Maiden show - and organizes this all voluntarily. He’s from California, but realistically, no one can attend every show worldwide alongside their actual job and then organize the meet-ups on-site. No normal person has that much vacation time. Anyway. All in all, that dude is really unpleasant. Do you know him? Anyone who has ever won FTTB must actually have dealt with him at some point. I’d be interested to hear your opinions.
 
Dick Brucinson said:
The most unpleasant thing about FTTB is this so-called unofficial local organizer, Charlie Colter. Do any of you know him? I find him to be a totally weirdo. Supposedly, he’s a "super-fan" who travels the globe - refusing to miss a single Maiden show - and organizes this all voluntarily. He’s from California, but realistically, no one can attend every show worldwide alongside their actual job and then organize the meet-ups on-site. No normal person has that much vacation time. Anyway. All in all, that dude is really unpleasant. Do you know him? Anyone who has ever won FTTB must actually have dealt with him at some point. I’d be interested to hear your opinions.
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Yup, the canadian guy, and his buddy the finnish gut Emmi Tilander

Before they did changes rules with "random numbers" Charlie and Emmi always had FTTB for 10-20 shows a tour and was in que for 12 hours before show. I had opinions on this, they blocked me. I wonder why?

They also probably have a ranking system for each gig in each country, in my country i know several who always gets their FTTB to the rail

Also there was a couple of americans, "capnharris" aka steph, james and logan, and their brittish friend mike

Somehow they always manage to get FTTB multitimes, no one seems to react on that, everyone is ok with that. I think it might be a little bit more difficult having 1-20 numbers if it's random number lottery with 60 numbers

But they are probably holding space at the rail for eachother anyways

Thanks for understanding my point and argument, this you are not allowed to talk and discuss about over at the IMFC, the mod squad gets pissesd!
 
I don't know Charlie Colter, but how about sending an email to the fan club to complain? Then mods won't be able to stop it.
A band with Iron Maiden's status should surely be interested in ensuring that no unofficial “helpers” interfere with their processes.
 
MaryPelon said:
I don't know Charlie Colter, but how about sending an email to the fan club to complain? Then mods won't be able to stop it.
A band with Iron Maiden's status should surely be interested in ensuring that no unofficial “helpers” interfere with their processes.
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The mods banned me having opinsions about it and the unofficial private hidden facebook, they banned me becouse they are denfending their FTTB buddies

They didn't liked it i complained 15 people was on the wanting list on the FB group for the 2 LA shows only 2 was asking for FTTB on the official IMFC forum, the FB group is better organized.

They also didn't liked when i posted information about MEGADETH VIP got early entry to venue when they complained they got in before Maiden FTTB.

Queen of hearts, one of the mod squad is hanging out at that fb group, is friend with the admin, they back they up
 
MaryPelon said:
I don't know Charlie Colter, but how about sending an email to the fan club to complain? Then mods won't be able to stop it.
A band with Iron Maiden's status should surely be interested in ensuring that no unofficial “helpers” interfere with their processes.
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Good idea; it really pisses me off e.g. to see that guy Charlie Colter constantly bringing his own people along - like that Finnish girlfriend of his. I attended seven shows of the RFYL tour and signed up for FTTB every single time without ever winning, yet that guy brings his people - the same ones - along every time. He’s just a disgusting guy in general.

What’s left of the fan club is a joke anyway. It’s kinda pretentious bunch, and there’s really no reason to be a member anymore, the last thing keeping me there was FTTB, but given how things are being handled now - as I described earlier - the only real option is to quit.
 
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Dick Brucinson said:
Good idea; it really pisses me off e.g. to see that guy Charlie Colter constantly bringing his own people along - like that Finnish girlfriend of his. I attended seven shows of the RFYL tour and signed up for FTTB every single time without ever winning, yet that guy brings his people - the same ones - along every time. He’s just a disgusting guy in general.

What’s left of the fan club is a joke anyway. It’s kinda pretentious bunch, and there’s really no reason to be a member anymore, the last thing keeping me there was FTTB, but given how things are being handled now - as I described earlier - the only real option is to quit.
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Thanks for giving me be correct about this, yeah that finnish girl seems to be so special, she's been on many official fottage on Maiden media

I know she was on both Stockholm shows and Helsinki show last year, someone told me on the Helsinki show with the new random numbers system, she was way back, but there are picturs of her be first row at the rail, so her buddies is holding space for her.

I don't think this behaviour would be accepted tolerated with other bands, luckly it's only Maiden doing this, and it's awful

If a person are always begging, not giving, FTTB that makes a person very selfish, which many of the regulars are, it's all about them

IMFC forum is pretty much all about the FTTB, and the maiden flag pics at shows
 
DeadlySins said:
Thanks for giving me be correct about this, yeah that finnish girl seems to be so special, she's been on many official fottage on Maiden media

I know she was on both Stockholm shows and Helsinki show last year, someone told me on the Helsinki show with the new random numbers system, she was way back, but there are picturs of her be first row at the rail, so her buddies is holding space for her.

I don't think this behaviour would be accepted tolerated with other bands, luckly it's only Maiden doing this, and it's awful

If a person are always begging, not giving, FTTB that makes a person very selfish, which many of the regulars are, it's all about them

IMFC forum is pretty much all about the FTTB, and the maiden flag pics at shows
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Can you write a good statement to the people at the fan club? I'm not very good at that, but I guess you are. I's so important anyway. Or maybe we do a petition or something.
 
DeadlySins said:
Thanks for giving me be correct about this, yeah that finnish girl seems to be so special, she's been on many official fottage on Maiden media

I know she was on both Stockholm shows and Helsinki show last year, someone told me on the Helsinki show with the new random numbers system, she was way back, but there are picturs of her be first row at the rail, so her buddies is holding space for her.

I don't think this behaviour would be accepted tolerated with other bands, luckly it's only Maiden doing this, and it's awful

If a person are always begging, not giving, FTTB that makes a person very selfish, which many of the regulars are, it's all about them

IMFC forum is pretty much all about the FTTB, and the maiden flag pics at shows
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I mean, it’s just ridiculous that FTTB has degenerated into a decadent club run by people who exist solely for their own sake - people who are effectively preoccupied only with themselves and remain closed off to the outside world. And yes, it used to be so different some years ago. It just makes me sad.
 
What's true is (and I've actually been wondering how it's possible) that I see those Captn Harris people in the front row every single time.

I would mention in the message/statement that fans are starting to notice this and that it's damaging Maiden's reputation.
 
There is this polish guy, this tour, both Europe and Northamerica he had over 20 FTTB, how is that even possible?

And with the random numbers system, there must be peope holding space at the first row at the rail for him?



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Hendrik said:
What's true is (and I've actually been wondering how it's possible) that I see those Captn Harris people in the front row every single time.

I would mention in the message/statement that fans are starting to notice this and that it's damaging Maiden's reputation.
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And the girl from Finland every time as well. Which is statistically not plausible. Like so many other things in context of FTTB are statically not plausible. And this needs to change.
(Oh, and the polish guy was around in 2003 already, remember him from Donington. His user name was PolishEddie back then. And nobody could really stand him I remember.)
 
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MaryPelon said:
I don't know Charlie Colter, but how about sending an email to the fan club to complain? Then mods won't be able to stop it.
A band with Iron Maiden's status should surely be interested in ensuring that no unofficial “helpers” interfere with their processes.
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Just wondering who you are in real life, and if we met before at some FTTB here in Germany (perhaps at times when things went more pleasant than they do nowadays). :)
 
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