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Invader

Ancient Mariner
pilau said:
Show off! :p Well, you're not alone - Korpiklaani was here last September, it was a small show in a small club PACKED with people - so intense... They said never expected such an enthusiastic response from the Israeli crowd. The truth is, they simply don't know how many Folk Metal fans we have here. Then we had Finntroll last April I believe, but I didn't go. Two friends said show was great though :)

Quite funny, two bands from my own country and I have seen neither live.  But, that will probably change this fall. :rocker:
 

pilau

Trooper
Right on!

Wait - Invader - I have to clarify something. Is it true that most Finnish metalheads dislike Finnish folk metal?
 

Invader

Ancient Mariner
I can't confirm that, since most of my metal friends like folk metal, and even one non-metal one likes Korpiklaani and Finntroll.  I don't know enough metalheads to be sure how many in general like it.  It's not the most popular genre and I've heard of people actively disliking it, but I wouldn't say "most".  Rather, Finnish folk metal is not that well known in Finland (ironic, yes).  There's usually a folk metal band or three in any rock or metal festival, though, and I've seen Ensiferum loads of times though I don't listen to them much.

But I can confirm that a Finn who likes folk metal from other countries is very rare.  I don't think I can name a single foreign folk metal band.  Oh wait, Alestorm.
 

Perun

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Try starting with Eluveitie (Germany), Einherjer (Norway), Primordial (Ireland), Cruachan (Ireland), Equilibrium (Germany), Heidevolk (Netherlands), Týr (Faroer Islands) or, if you're looking for something really freaky, Tuatha de Danann, a Celtic Metal band from Brazil whose mascot is a dancing midget. Heidevolk are probably those closest to the Finnish folk metal bands you're used to as their logo is decorated by mead horns. I'm not going into the more serious Viking/Pagan stuff, though.

Oh, and Mägo de Oz (Spain).
 

Invader

Ancient Mariner
I know Primordial, but they're hard to place into any genre.  I have a hard time calling them folk metal, though they may use folk elements.  Finnish folk metal is the best drinking music ever, but Primordial just doesn't fit that mindset.  Or, it may just be that my own definition of folk metal is somewhat narrow.

I also know Eluveitie, Mago de Oz, and Týr by name, but haven't heard their music.
 

pilau

Trooper
Wow Per, so many sides to you, don't know which anymore! :p (I didn't know you were so much into folk metal)

Korpiklaani is the most fun band I know! Not only for drinking, but also just listen to them for no reason. I also like to listen to them when I'm riding bicycle or training. Very energetic music for a very energetic exercise. :ok:

Korpiklaani also got me very fond of the Finnish language. Call me nuts - I think it has a special sound. At least with my exposure to Korpiklaani. I wish I could learn it, but no teachers here and no good free online course. Too bad :(

May I recommend to you folk metal enthusiasts Orphaned Land? They are the flagship of oriental metal, one of the most successful Israeli metal bands and one of my personal favorites. Musically, you could describe them as Opeth meets traditional middle-eastern and Arab music. Hell, they are so successful their biggest fan base is not in their homeland but in Turkey! I definitely recommend you check out their masterpiece album Mabool, and their latest effort, The Never Ending Way of ORwarriOR - both very progressive, complex and interesting concept albums.

Mabool, by the way, translates to "The Flood", and as it's name implies, this album tells their version of the biblical Flood myth. OR in Hebrew is light, so ORwarriOR is actually a word play for "Warrior of Light" and is a story about the conflicts between a man and himself, god, and the world. It's sounds superficial but the lyrics are very deep and with the music will play on your emotions :)
 

Invader

Ancient Mariner
Genghis Khan said:
That was entertaining.  Beer, beer!  Something, something in Finnish!   :yey:

Here's "Juodaan Viinaa" by the same band.  It means "let's drink booze".  A cover, but a great one. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6z4DRPG7rbc

And to continue with the same subject matter, here's one called Vodka.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7kJRGPgvRQ


pilau said:
May I recommend to you folk metal enthusiasts Orphaned Land? They are the flagship of oriental metal, one of the most successful Israeli metal bands and one of my personal favorites. Musically, you could describe them as Opeth meets traditional middle-eastern and Arab music. Hell, they are so successful their biggest fan base is not in their homeland but in Turkey! I definitely recommend you check out their masterpiece album Mabool, and their latest effort, The Never Ending Way of ORwarriOR - both very progressive, complex and interesting concept albums.

I have Mabool as MP3, but I haven't listened to it for a while.  It's interesting music, but I'm not always in the mood for it.
 

pilau

Trooper
Invader said:
Here's "Juodaan Viinaa" by the same band.  It means "let's drink booze".  A cover, but a great one. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6z4DRPG7rbc

And to continue with the same subject matter, here's one called Vodka.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7kJRGPgvRQ

Bah, these are the generic stuff! Except for Vodka maybe, these are the weaker songs! Here's where they really shine:
Journey Man: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejyoYRxjdnc
Crows Bring the Spring: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C32ETlSy8hM
Pine Woods: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEVJFSUjvNo
Rise: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEVJFSUjvNo
Northern Fall: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOHe-0V41sI
Paljon On Koskessa Kiviä (The Rapid Has Many Rocks): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izc-ZD6Zy5w

EDIT: I know it's a lot of songs, but each one is a gem. This is their most beautiful song - Kipumyly: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GthdbNGZVe0

Invader said:
I have Mabool as MP3, but I haven't listened to it for a while.  It's interesting music, but I'm not always in the mood for it.

That's cool. This is one of my all-time favorite albums. EPIC.
 

Genghis Khan

Ancient Mariner
Invader said:
Here's "Juodaan Viinaa" by the same band.  It means "let's drink booze".  A cover, but a great one. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6z4DRPG7rbc

And to continue with the same subject matter, here's one called Vodka.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7kJRGPgvRQ


I have Mabool as MP3, but I haven't listened to it for a while.  It's interesting music, but I'm not always in the mood for it.

Vodka is my favourite, though I like the main up-beat riff off of Juodaan Viinaa.  Viinaa sounds like wine to me, even though you wrote booze.  Vino = wine.
 

Invader

Ancient Mariner
No, it's booze, or more specifically spirits.  I speak the darn language, I should know. :p

pilau said:
Bah, these are the generic stuff! Except for Vodka maybe, these are the weaker songs! Here's where they really shine:

I haven't listened to the band all that much, to be honest. You know them better than me.  Do you know Moonsorrow?  One of my favourite Finnish bands, and they write some insanely long songs.
 

Genghis Khan

Ancient Mariner
Invader said:
No, it's booze, or more specifically spirits.  I speak the darn language, I should know. :p

Your word is trustworthy, I just thought I'd point out the similarity, that's all.
 

pilau

Trooper
Invader said:
I haven't listened to the band all that much, to be honest. You know them better than me.  Do you know Moonsorrow?  One of my favourite Finnish bands, and they write some insanely long songs.

I know all of Korpiklaani's songs by heart :D I heard of them, but never heard them. Can you recommend a couple of songs?

Perun said:
And that's exactly what anything written in Arabic script looks like.

Lol. Arabic is a wonderful language. All the workers I am responsible for in my workplace are Arab so I get exposed to the language a lot :)

Are you learning Arab, Per?
 

Perun

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pilau said:
Are you learning Arab, Per?

No, I learned Persian and Kurdish, but both are written with Arabic script. I also started learning classical Hebrew once, but I... err, regularly slept in so I didn't make class anymore after two or three sessions.  :blush:

Actually, the Kurds found a way to vocalise the Arabic script, but Persian is still missing 75% of its vowels. For instance, you have a word that reads "mtvjeh" (متوجه), although it may also read "mtujeh" (و can mean w, v, u and sometimes even o in Persian). You don't know if it is pronounced "matavajeh" "matujeh", "metujeh", "motovojeh" or whatever. It's pure guesswork if you don't know the word. And there's even worse words, like "m'jzeh". (معجزه), i.e. those that have an 'eyn (') in it, or "lbkhndznan" (لبخندزنان). You can put any vowel between any of the consonants (except "u" and "i", which are always written in Persian) and see what happens.

(incidentally, the words are pronounced "mottavajeh", "mo'jezeh" and "labkhandzanan" respectively)
 
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