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Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Genghis Khan, Dec 22, 2007.

  1. Dr. Eddies Wingman

    Dr. Eddies Wingman Brighter than thousand_suns

    It was probably Obama.
     
  2. The Flash

    The Flash Dennis Wilcock did 9/11

    It wasn't Shaggy either.
     
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  3. CriedWhenBrucieLeft

    CriedWhenBrucieLeft Ancient Mariner

    Foro's enemies must be flushed out! This is murky stuff; threads just disappearing. Someone must be to blame!
     
  4. Magnus

    Magnus Educated Fool

    Illuminates. Easy.
     
  5. CriedWhenBrucieLeft

    CriedWhenBrucieLeft Ancient Mariner

    Dark forces are at work here.
     
  6. The Flash

    The Flash Dennis Wilcock did 9/11

    No it's Dennis Wilcock.

    It's always Dennis Wilcock.
     
  7. LooseCannon

    LooseCannon Yorktown-class aircraft carrier Staff Member

  8. LooseCannon

    LooseCannon Yorktown-class aircraft carrier Staff Member

    If you thought the Republican field in 2016 was deep, the potential Democrats for 2020 are starting to come out:
    https://www.axios.com/dems-begin-lining-up-2020-staff-cash-2480249930.html

    • Watched most closely: Sen. Elizabeth Warren (Mass.), Sen. Bernie Sanders (Vt.), Sen. Cory Booker (N.J.), Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand (N.Y.), Sen. Kamala Harris (Calif.), New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo.
    • The classics: Joe Biden, John Kerry, Al Gore, former Maryland Gov. Martin O'Malley.
    • Outsiders: New Orleans Mayor Mitch Landrieu, Los Angeles Mayor Eric Garcetti, Washington Gov. Jay Inslee, Colorado Gov. Hickenlooper
    • Has begun seeking staff: Montana Gov. Steve Bullock, Sen. Chris Murphy (Conn.), Rep. Tim Ryan (Ohio).
    • Many in Obamaworld like: former Massachusetts Gov. Deval Patrick, Rep. Seth Moulton (Mass), former Missouri SecState Jason Kander.
    • Many in Clintonworld like: Virginia Gov. Terry McAuliffe, former Ag Secretary and Iowa Gov. Tom Vilsack, former HUD Secretary Julian Castro.
    • Possible if wins reelection: Sen. Sherrod Brown (Ohio).
    • Wants to be mentioned: Sen. Amy Klobuchar (Minn.).
    • Wild cards: Sen. Al Franken (Minn.), Rhode Island Gov. Gina Raimondo, New York Mayor Bill de Blasio, Rep. John Delaney (Md.).
    • Non-politicians: Facebook COO Sheryl Sandberg, Mark Cuban, The Rock, Starbucks Executive Chairman Howard Schultz, Disney CEO Bob Iger, Oprah, George Clooney.
    • Someone Trump would have no idea what to do with, and who'd win women with authenticity and Southern charm: Sally Yates, the acting attorney general fired by Trump.
     
  9. Forostar

    Forostar Conjure the Death Star again

    It is possible that people who delete a thread accidentily, don't know that they did so. They might not realize it. So all mods are still suspect.
     
  10. Mosh

    Mosh The years just pass like trains Staff Member

    I really hope not. Republicans tried a crowded field last time and got Trump.

    Anyway my top three picks would be Franken, Hickenlooper (Colorado bias), and Biden.
     
  11. Perun

    Perun Climbing like a monkey Staff Member

    This is most likely what happened.
     
  12. Forostar

    Forostar Conjure the Death Star again

    It was not the most important topic. ;)
     
  13. The Flash

    The Flash Dennis Wilcock did 9/11

    Kanye West
     
  14. Mosh

    Mosh The years just pass like trains Staff Member

    He wants to run as republican after Trump
     
  15. Perun

    Perun Climbing like a monkey Staff Member

    And just by saying that, he got what he wants the most: Attention. You'd think after Trump's victory, people would learn about that, but no. Of course not.
     
  16. Travis The Dragon

    Travis The Dragon The dreamers may die, but the dreams live on.

    A new thread about the situation with North Korea has been started at the DEFCON warning system's forum. And there's a pretty strong statement from Putin.

    Also, from: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...an-soldiers-ordered-steal-corn-ready-war-kim/
     
  17. LooseCannon

    LooseCannon Yorktown-class aircraft carrier Staff Member

    I don't know what Putin would do in that situation. I think it might depend on China. I dunno - there has never been a good time to fight a war in the Korean Peninsula (not that there's any good time to fight a war). I just hope the Orange-in-Chief doesn't decide to strike first, because that seems guaranteed to line China up against the US and any Allied forces.
     
  18. Perun

    Perun Climbing like a monkey Staff Member

    Here's my take on this:

    Kim believes that the only way he can maintain his power in North Korea is by showing strength to his people and his generals. Part of this tactic is demonstrating that the world is afraid of him, by launching missiles and constructing bombs with some sort of radioactivity attached to them. If we show him that we are afraid of him, he will show his generals that he's a strong leader. I do not think that Kim is irrational enough to attack another country. I actually don't think he is irrational, or a madman - he is rational within the irrational system that he controls. His system speaks a very primitive language in which threatening behaviour is understood to mean strength and stability. I don't think an attack on South Korea is on Kim's agenda. He wants to stay in power, that's all.

    I don't know what Trump wants. Honestly. I think Trump is an irrational madman. I don't think he understands what Kim is doing, and he is under enough domestic pressure to seek refuge in war; this is always an occasion to brand opponents as unpatriotic traitors. There is very much that can converge to push him there: The FBI investigations, the White House Crisis, the resistance of Congress, and his increasing unpopularity among the people. He might prove to be as much a failure as Bush when it comes to dealing with Harvey, and there will be more crises he will fail at. At some point, he might react like a mortally wounded animal that is at its most dangerous when it is already defeated. I can see him giving command to a nuclear strike just to show the Democrats who's the strong man, and I can see it happening when he is already halfway out of office. Trump is a mirror image of Kim: He is an irrational man within a rational system.
     
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  19. Travis The Dragon

    Travis The Dragon The dreamers may die, but the dreams live on.

    It's hard to say for sure with Kim. A year ago, he was showing propaganda videos of the White House being blown up with nukes. If he just wants to defend his country, why is he displaying so much threatening material to go along with it? As long as he appears to be such a threat, we have to stay prepared for anything.

    As far as Trump goes, it seems that the liberal media is attacking and hounding him more than any other president in history which might be making him look a lot worse than he really is. I can't say for sure. Also, I noticed that on this forum when I've brought the issues of gay people and abortion, everyone on here defends those. I don't see people on both sides arguing back and forth on those issues which leads me to believe that most on here probably lean more towards the left and if that's true, most of you probably get your news from media outlets that also lean more towards the left who are all just trying to make Trump look bad. Maybe I'm wrong though and Trump really is that bad. Again, it's hard to say for sure.
     
  20. Travis The Dragon

    Travis The Dragon The dreamers may die, but the dreams live on.

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