There's at least one semi-sane Arab leader - the King of Jordan.If only they could have sanity in leadership like their neighbors
The Israel-Palestine conflict
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Not really topical, but since Israel is in the thread title,
apparently their ambassador here is to hold a class about something and he asked for all "colored" people (students) to be removed from the audience.
bearfan
Ancient Mariner
Better luck next time
Jerusalem (CNN)Benjamin Netanyahu appears poised to keep his job as Israel's Prime Minister, declaring victory Wednesday following a bitter campaign punctuated by his last-minute appeals to right-wing voters.
For weeks, Netanyahu's Likud party trailed in opinion polls to the Zionist Union alliance that characterized him as a divisive leader not up to the task of making the lives of ordinary Israelis better.
Yet those polls turned out to be wrong.
Instead, the Likud party grabbed at least 29 of the 120 seats in the Knesset, Israel's parliament, according to unofficial numbers from the Israeli election committee based on 99% of the vote. That gives its leaders the first chance at forming a coalition government.
The Zionist Union came in second, with at least 24 seats.
"Against all odds, against all odds, we achieved this huge victory for Likud," Netanyahu told jubilant supporters not long after the polls closed Tuesday. "We achieved the huge victory for our people. And I am proud, I am proud for the people of Israel that in the moment of truth, knew to make the right decision and to choose the real material things over immaterial things."
Jerusalem (CNN)Benjamin Netanyahu appears poised to keep his job as Israel's Prime Minister, declaring victory Wednesday following a bitter campaign punctuated by his last-minute appeals to right-wing voters.
For weeks, Netanyahu's Likud party trailed in opinion polls to the Zionist Union alliance that characterized him as a divisive leader not up to the task of making the lives of ordinary Israelis better.
Yet those polls turned out to be wrong.
Instead, the Likud party grabbed at least 29 of the 120 seats in the Knesset, Israel's parliament, according to unofficial numbers from the Israeli election committee based on 99% of the vote. That gives its leaders the first chance at forming a coalition government.
The Zionist Union came in second, with at least 24 seats.
"Against all odds, against all odds, we achieved this huge victory for Likud," Netanyahu told jubilant supporters not long after the polls closed Tuesday. "We achieved the huge victory for our people. And I am proud, I am proud for the people of Israel that in the moment of truth, knew to make the right decision and to choose the real material things over immaterial things."
Yes, and at what cost? Promising he will not pursue the two-state solution. Netanyahu is investing Israel in an eternal war.
Nobody here...well, maybe Forostar...thinks that if Israel just said today, "OK Palestine, you're a state, have fun!" that it would fix everything overnight. But if you want to guarantee that Israel will be at a state of war forever, remove the carrot.
bearfan
Ancient Mariner
I agree that someone has to make a move, I do think it is unfortunate that other groups and countries use the Palestinians as a pawn in their anti-Isreali, anti-Jewish, anti-Western propaganda and the Palestinians have (in a misguided move IMO) hitched their wagon to these people.
bearfan
Ancient Mariner
This guy moved to the top of the list of people not to fuck with. Good for him, hope he recovers
http://www.timesofisrael.com/stabbin...lls-terrorist/
Stabbing victim pulls knife out of own neck, kills terrorist
Yonatan Azarihab, who was collecting money for charity, hospitalized in moderate condition after Petah Tikva attack
March 8, 2016
An Israeli man who was stabbed multiple times Tuesday afternoon in a terror attack in Petah Tikva managed to remove the knife from his neck and use it to stab and neutralize his attacker, aided by the store owner, police said.
The attacker, a Palestinian, died a few minutes later, police said.
The victim, later named as Yonatan Azarihab, an ultra-Orthodox man of about 40 who suffered multiple stab wounds to his upper body, was hospitalized in moderate condition.
The store owner was not injured.
The Palestinian assailant had followed Azarihab, who was collecting money for charity, into a wine shop on the central city’s Baron Hirsch Street and began stabbing him “multiple times” in the upper body in a “frenzied attack,” police said.
At one point, Azarihab managed to break away and fled the store, while the owner of the store hit the attacker and tried to subdue him, police said. The victim then returned to the store, pulled the knife out of his own neck, and stabbed his attacker.
Initial reports had said the stabbing may have occurred during an altercation; however, the incident was later confirmed by police as a terror attack.
Magen David Adom paramedics said they treated Azarihab at the scene before taking him to the city’s Beilinson Hospital.
Nati Ostri, a volunteer medic from United Hatzalah who also treated the victim, said he found the man lying on the floor outside a convenience store.
“Together with other volunteers of the Ambucycle Unit of United Hatzalah we treated the victim utilizing first aid treatment, following which he was taken to Beilinson Hospital in an ambulance. At the time of transfer the victim was conscious,” he said.
http://www.timesofisrael.com/stabbin...lls-terrorist/
Stabbing victim pulls knife out of own neck, kills terrorist
Yonatan Azarihab, who was collecting money for charity, hospitalized in moderate condition after Petah Tikva attack
March 8, 2016
An Israeli man who was stabbed multiple times Tuesday afternoon in a terror attack in Petah Tikva managed to remove the knife from his neck and use it to stab and neutralize his attacker, aided by the store owner, police said.
The attacker, a Palestinian, died a few minutes later, police said.
The victim, later named as Yonatan Azarihab, an ultra-Orthodox man of about 40 who suffered multiple stab wounds to his upper body, was hospitalized in moderate condition.
The store owner was not injured.
The Palestinian assailant had followed Azarihab, who was collecting money for charity, into a wine shop on the central city’s Baron Hirsch Street and began stabbing him “multiple times” in the upper body in a “frenzied attack,” police said.
At one point, Azarihab managed to break away and fled the store, while the owner of the store hit the attacker and tried to subdue him, police said. The victim then returned to the store, pulled the knife out of his own neck, and stabbed his attacker.
Initial reports had said the stabbing may have occurred during an altercation; however, the incident was later confirmed by police as a terror attack.
Magen David Adom paramedics said they treated Azarihab at the scene before taking him to the city’s Beilinson Hospital.
Nati Ostri, a volunteer medic from United Hatzalah who also treated the victim, said he found the man lying on the floor outside a convenience store.
“Together with other volunteers of the Ambucycle Unit of United Hatzalah we treated the victim utilizing first aid treatment, following which he was taken to Beilinson Hospital in an ambulance. At the time of transfer the victim was conscious,” he said.
The Flash
Dennis Wilcock did 9/11
Surely this thread needs a two-year bump after the latest events? Trump's decision to move the embassy to Jerusalem, unsurprisingly, resulted in violence. 60+ Palestinian protesters killed by Israeli forces in the Gaza Strip.
Turkish parliament held a vote regarding pulling out of all treaties made with Israel today. The bill was actually proposed by the social democrats and was rejected by ruling AKP members. An AKP MP raised his hand in a Nazi salute to reject the bill, which is obviously not only an abhorrent but a baffling action considering he voted to preserve the treaties with Israel.
Turkish parliament held a vote regarding pulling out of all treaties made with Israel today. The bill was actually proposed by the social democrats and was rejected by ruling AKP members. An AKP MP raised his hand in a Nazi salute to reject the bill, which is obviously not only an abhorrent but a baffling action considering he voted to preserve the treaties with Israel.
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Intentional nazi salute?
D
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I've mentally drawn X/Y perpendicular guidelines sourced from the base of his neck. The right arm is raised at 45-50 degrees. This is one hell of a technical Nazi salute.
Edit : what I meant to say is that's one fat asshole
Edit : what I meant to say is that's one fat asshole
Forostar
Ancient Mariner
http://mondoweiss.net/2015/10/check-msnbcs-palestinian/
(October 2015)
Last week, MSNBC aired a map (above) showing the loss of Palestinian land to Zionist settlers and then to Israel from 1946 to the present. Following criticism from Israelis and their supporters, MSNBC apologized and stated that the map was incorrect. But was it? The following is a fact check of MSNBC’s map and the criticisms of it.
Does the map accurately show the loss of Palestinian land since 1946?
Yes. The map accurately depicts the land that has been forcibly taken from Palestinians since 1946, two years before Israel was established and the accompanying expulsion of between 750,000 and a million Palestinians to make way for a Jewish state.
During and immediately following the state’s creation in 1948, Israel expropriated approximately 4,244,776 acres of Palestinian land. In the process, more than 400 Palestinian cities and towns were systematically destroyed by Israeli forces or repopulated with Jews. Most Palestinian population centers, including homes, businesses, houses of worship, and vibrant urban centers, were demolished to prevent the return of their owners, now refugees outside of Israel’s pre-1967 borders or internally displaced within them. (See here for interactive map of Palestinian population centers destroyed during Israel’s creation.)
Israel’s systematic dispossession of Palestinians is ongoing today, both in the occupied territories and inside Israel’s internationally recognized pre-1967 borders, where Palestinian citizens of the state and those living under occupation continue to be pushed out of their homes and off their lands – including entire towns – to make way for Jewish citizens and settlers. Today, there are approximately 650,000 Jewish settlers living illegally on occupied Palestinian land in the West Bank and East Jerusalem, and Israel’s settlement enterprise covers approximately 42% of the West Bank.
Did the map specify that Palestine was an independent state prior to 1948?
No. Critics have focused on the fact that Palestine was not a sovereign and independent state prior to 1948, however the map did not claim that it was. The map purported to show “Palestinian Loss of Land 1946-present,” and it did precisely that, accurately. While it was not a recognized independent state under British rule in 1946, Palestine as a political entity existed prior to the formation of the state of Israel in 1948, going back to ancient times when it was a province of the Roman empire until more recently when it was British Mandatory Palestine, immediately preceding Israel’s creation.
Were there real factual errors in the map?
Yes. There were two factual errors in the map:
- It showed the Syrian Golan Heights, which have been under Israeli military occupation since the 1967 War, as part of Israel, although the international community, including the United States, does not recognize Israeli sovereignty over the area.
- The map also shows “Israel” existing in 1946. While British Mandatory Palestine did exist in 1946, there was no political entity called “Israel” until 1948.
Forostar
Ancient Mariner
This sums it all up, doesn't it?
...But if it were legal for Israel to bomb and invade Egypt in 1967 and then occupy Palestinian land for decades, it logically follows that Palestinians in Gaza have had the right to attack and occupy Israel ever since the Israeli blockade began in 2007. Fair’s fair. This absolutely doesn’t mean that Palestinians should do that, even if they somehow could, which they can’t. But the silent hypocrisy surrounding the issue is bleakly funny — Israel can fire missiles, drop bombs, and seize land when subjected to a blockade, but Palestinians are monsters when they throw rocks and burn tires in response to a much more suffocating siege.
Read the whole article here. Recommended.
https://theintercept.com/2018/05/16...f-israels-justifications-for-the-six-day-war/
...But if it were legal for Israel to bomb and invade Egypt in 1967 and then occupy Palestinian land for decades, it logically follows that Palestinians in Gaza have had the right to attack and occupy Israel ever since the Israeli blockade began in 2007. Fair’s fair. This absolutely doesn’t mean that Palestinians should do that, even if they somehow could, which they can’t. But the silent hypocrisy surrounding the issue is bleakly funny — Israel can fire missiles, drop bombs, and seize land when subjected to a blockade, but Palestinians are monsters when they throw rocks and burn tires in response to a much more suffocating siege.
Read the whole article here. Recommended.
https://theintercept.com/2018/05/16...f-israels-justifications-for-the-six-day-war/