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The Guitar Players Thread - Help each other play Maiden songs

Discussion in 'Musicians Discussion' started by The Nomad, Oct 7, 2015.

  1. AlexS

    AlexS Trooper

    I'm using a Line 6 POD HD Pro as a preamp / FX unit, into a Marshall 9005 power amp, for the role of Dave Murray in an Iron Maiden tribute band I just joined. (My first gig with them is in a couple weeks; I'll probably upgrade to a JMP-1 and TC G-Force after a few more gigs, but this setup is working pretty well so far.)

    For a couple of my lead patches, I deviated from "canon" and based them off the Soldano SLO100 model for that high-gain, creamy neck pickup sound Dave uses. (My rhythm patches are based on JCM800 models.) Other lead patches are JCM800 with compressor, "Tube Drive," delay (different settings ranging from around 130ms to 390ms, depending on what I need it for - fast to help fast legato runs or trills sound faster, long when I need lots of sustain like for the "Run to the Hills" intro), and phase (0.3 Hz speed) & wah that are off by default but can be switched in when needed.

    For the first lead in Powerslave, I used the SLO100 patch with compression, delay (261 ms, one repeat), and "Script Phase" (Phase 90) at about 0.5 Hz speed.

    Here's me testing it out when I was first dialing it in, prior to my full-band audition; there was still a little tweaking to do in this clip and my playing has gotten better since too, but it was pretty darn close here.



    Don't forget the noise gate effect as the last part of your signal chain before the power amp - for any of your patches, clean, crunch, or high-gain. Makes a big difference.
     
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  2. AlexS

    AlexS Trooper

    I think you're half-right about the "half-played notes" / "random hand movements." But it's most definitely not random; it's all within the scale they're using for the solo.

    I was struggling with the notes during the second section of that lead for a long time too (if you break it into four sections, each corresponding to one run-through of the chord progression) -- trying to study tabs, slow it down in Audacity, everything. Then one day I tried just trilling my way down the scale in 16th-note triplets -- I don't want to say sloppily, but not thinking too hard about exactly which notes of the scale I hit -- and it just kind of "clicked."

    Remember Dave's a "feel" player who doesn't really compose his solos, so don't think too hard about it or it will mess you up. Pick your starting point and your ending point, have a general idea of how you want to get there, and think of Chevy Chase in Caddyshack - "Be the Ball" -- and you might surprise yourself like I did.

     
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  3. Deanatron

    Deanatron Can I play with Agnes?

    cool, thanks for the tips, I'll try these out when I get the chance! I've been enjoying messing around with the POD, it's capable of some great sounds - Don't think they deserve all the hate they get online.
     
  4. AlexS

    AlexS Trooper

    I'm still tweaking all my tones, and have changed them a bit since my last post. Mostly phase (longer - like 1.1 Hz) and delay (about 30% feedback). Dave uses a Phase 90 with speed knob set on about 11 o'clock - I have to do a side-by-side comparison with the Script Phase effect on the POD so I can get the speed just right, but haven't done that yet.
     
  5. Deanatron

    Deanatron Can I play with Agnes?

    Question - does anyone know the three amigos preferences for pick sizes/thickness?
     
  6. AlexS

    AlexS Trooper

    In a recent interview, all three said they use heavies. But the Live After Death booklet said Dave used mediums back then.
     
  7. Mosh

    Mosh The years just pass like trains Staff Member

  8. Srogyy

    Srogyy Ancient Mariner

  9. Mosh

    Mosh The years just pass like trains Staff Member

    The Hal Leonard books are usually pretty good. The Iron Maiden Anthology (same publisher) was good enough, despite some questionable song choices (e.g. No Prayer For the Dying but no Hallowed). I'm surprised this was even made, since TBOS was the first album since Virtual XI not to get a TAB book.
     
  10. Cosmiceddie

    Cosmiceddie Back From The Edge

    I wonder why there's still no guitar tab book of The Book Of Souls available...
     
  11. Mosh

    Mosh The years just pass like trains Staff Member

    Not sure, I can only assume that sales on these books have sharply declined with Guitar Pro and stuff. A lot of online tabs tend to be more accurate too. Also, none of the music stores in my area ever stocked the Maiden books (other than Anthology) so maybe there wasn't much demand. Length could play a part too.
     

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