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The Alchemist

Discussion in 'The Final Frontier' started by Forostar, Aug 9, 2010.

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How good is The Alchemist on a scale of 1-10?

  1. 10

    9.4%
  2. 9

    28.1%
  3. 8

    15.6%
  4. 7

    28.1%
  5. 6

    15.6%
  6. 5

    3.1%
  7. 4

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  8. 3

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  9. 2

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  10. 1

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  1. Forostar

    Forostar Conjure the Death Star again

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    I'd like to start with some things Janick Gers and Steve Harris have said about this song. I've translated it from an interview in the latest Aardschok (Dutch rock & metal magazine).
    Location: Toronto / date: probably 3 Juli 2010, the concert date, since the gig was reviewed by the interviewer.

    Interviewer:
    “One of the compact songs is “The Alchemist”. It is a bit different, because it could fit on an old album like The Number Of The Beast, style and sound wise. Funny thing is that it was written by Janick Gers, who came to the band many years later.”

    Janick Gers:
    “We were quite far in the album process when I noted that The Final Frontier missed a real rock-‘n’-roll song. A short and powerful song. That’s why I came with this. I think it gives the album the necessary variation.”

    Steve Harris agrees:
    “It is indeed old-school Iron Maiden. For me it’s a cross between “Be Quick Or Be Dead”, “Man On The Edge” and “Montségur”. First I had my doubts,. Wasn’t it too different? I got myself over that. Because The Final Frontier isn’t a concept album.”
     
  2. Travis The Dragon

    Travis The Dragon The dreamers may die, but the dreams live on.

    For a short, quick rocker, it's great! :edmetal:
     
  3. Suicidehummer

    Suicidehummer Trooper

    The intro reminds me of the intro of The Mercenary.
     
  4. Stan

    Stan Nomad

    This song surprised me. It's actually really friggin' great. One of Janick's best.
     
  5. Ranko

    Ranko I'll shoot the gunner first!

    A cool short rocker, just what the album needs! I like it a lot! Parts remind me of Bruce's Silver Wings, and other parts of I Live My Way (B-side from TXF).
     
  6. LooseCannon

    LooseCannon Yorktown-class aircraft carrier Staff Member

    Now that the lyrics are starting to come together, I am getting fucking chills every time I hear this song. Not because it is particularly superb (though it is good)…but because my buddy Matt put on a Call of Cthulhu game that featured the twisted machinations of the alchemist John Dee.  Eeeeek.
     
  7. Stan

    Stan Nomad

    This may sound weird, but for some strange reason, The Alchemist reminds me of Bryan Adams' Only the Strong Survive.  :blink:
     
  8. Suicidehummer

    Suicidehummer Trooper

    The verses sound like the verses of Flash of the Blade.
     
  9. owa

    owa Invader

    This song is really growing on me.  So good.
     
  10. cidB

    cidB Prowler

    one of my 10 favorites in TFF
    anyone working on the lyrics?
     
  11. bornless1

    bornless1 Messiah Supreme. True Leader of Men.

    definitely an awesome little song here.  Reminds of be quick  or be dead, which is good.  It is better though. Deep lyrics.  Wish I had them in front of me.  Dark rocker I give it a 4.5/5.
     
  12. Khan

    Khan Trooper

    God bless Janick Gers......seriously. I could hug the man.

    BTW....as I said, I  can't post the lyrics, as I promised I wouldn't....but like the other 3 songs I have helped with so far, if someone wants to take a stab at it, I would be happy to fill in gaps and make corrections. :)
     
  13. attackrobot

    attackrobot Prowler

    I'm working on the lyrics right now and I'll post them when I'm done.
     
  14. Poto

    Poto Educated Fool

    It's definitely not my favourite song on the album, but it needs a track like this. It's good, but nothing more.
     
  15. heavy666rocker

    heavy666rocker Prowler

    the guitar melodys sound just like something off the first two albums
     
  16. Cap Maronis

    Cap Maronis Trooper

    Seriously! They have that kinda thin lizzyish vibe and everything!
     
  17. Rivet_Head

    Rivet_Head Invader

    not digging it still :(  oh well, im a slow learner (when it comes to this album).. Loving IOA, TMWWBK, TT, WTWWB, STARBLIND, MOM, TFF - Im very happy overall :rocker: :edmetal:
     
  18. attackrobot

    attackrobot Prowler

    Thanks to Khan for fixing them up.

    Stranger than the comet as it streaks across the sky
    Stranger than the truth I know before my open eyes
    I have dealt in mysteries and trickery, of light to entertain
    Looked into the abyss, called it by its name

    I have plundered time itself, put the world inside it
    I'm the mysteries, day and night, divide it
    A plague of wonders, on your knees beside me
    Know the secrets, you shall not deride us

    My dreams of empire from my frozen queen
    Will come to pass
    Know me, the Magus
    I am Dr. Dee
    And this is my house

    I am the master of the tides
    I shame the mirror in my sight
    What random music of the spheres
    Across the years

    Know this
    I will return to this land
    Rebuild where the ruins did stand
    Chain up the demons set free
    Strange alchemy

    Gather round the aimless and the feckless and the lame
    Hear the master summon up the spirits by their names
    I curse you Edward Kelly your betrayal for eternity is damned
    Know you speak with demons, you cannot command

    Even as I looked into the glass then I was blinded
    Burning by the Mortlake shore my house my books inside it
    You have taken up my wife and lain beside her
    Now the black rain on my house, the timbers burning

    My dreams of empire from my frozen queen
    Will come to pass
    Know me, the Magus
    I am Dr. Dee
    And this was my house

    I was the keeper of the books
    I had the knowledge of the scrolls
    But now through ignorance and fear
    I cast a shadow through the years

    Know this
    I will return to this land
    Rebuild where the ruins did stand
    Chain up the demons set free
    Strange alchemy

    Know this
    I will return to this land
    Rebuild where the ruins did stand
    Chain up the demons set free
    Strange alchemy

    Know this
    I will return to this land
    Rebuild where the ruins did stand
    Restore the knowledge memory
    Strange alchemy
     
  19. Khan

    Khan Trooper

    Ah yes....destined to likely be written off by those who never really got The Mercenary or The Pilgrim. Maiden should never forget about their roots of fast uptempo rockers...and this is a great one. Again...very odd and hard to get used to phrasing on the vocals. It's a song of few brief hooks...but they DO bring it through. I love a good straight forward Maiden rocker....and it reminds me in a couple places of Silver Wings from Bruce...just a little though. Surprising, because it's a Janick song. Know this...I will return to this land....rebuild where the ruins did stand. Brilliant lyrics!

    I'll try to help fill in the lyrics tonight, as I get time.
     
  20. attackrobot

    attackrobot Prowler

    Thanks Khan.
    Yeah, the chorus is my favourite part of this song, definitely something to sing along to.
     

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