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The Aftermath

Discussion in 'The X Factor' started by LooseCannon, Oct 8, 2003.

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How good is The Aftermath on a scale of 1-10?

  1. 10

    14.7%
  2. 9

    8.8%
  3. 8

    23.5%
  4. 7

    20.6%
  5. 6

    17.6%
  6. 5

    8.8%
  7. 4

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  8. 3

    5.9%
  9. 2

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  10. 1

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  1. Anonymous

    Anonymous Guest

    'the Aftermath'

    I also think that the questions asked in this song are important questions, but I see more to them than just the war theme.

    What are we fighting for?
    What really was the reason for all the fighting? It just brought more pain, death and suffering. Why didn't we settle the whole thing peacefully? This is probably the most important question in the song, I just hope none of us will be asking this question during our lifetimes.

    Is it worth the pain? Is it worth dying for?
    This is actually a question we will all ask in our lifetime, when we go to school, we think "Is this worth all of the hours I spend doing homework every night?", when we have kids we think "Is all the money we spend on him/her gonna help? Is she/he gonna grow into a respectable man/woman?". The answer to these questions is of course, "Yes", as is the question about war, risking your life protecting your family, thats all worth it in the end.

    Who will take the blame?
    Another question that we ask everyday in our lives, when we do something wrong, its human nature to avoid the blame, but sometimes we take the blame for others, to keep them out of trouble while other times, you debate who should take it, in a way, you want to, but you want to avoid the trouble.

    Should we be fighting at all?
    Sometimes you have an issue with someone and you get into a big arguement, after its over, you wonder. For example, you get a phone call from your kid's principle and your kid was in a fight. They get home and you get mad at them, its in the nature, you worry that your kid is gonna get hurt. You argue with him/her and then afterwards you feel bad about it and you're like "Omg...what have I done...we shouldn't be fighting, we should be talking".
     
  2. Anonymous

    Anonymous Guest

    'the Aftermath'

    I agree with all the above comments, with the references to WW1 however, I also find a few references to early 19th century warfare(and before as this quote probably applies to every war ever fought)
    [!--quoteo--][div class=\'quotetop\']QUOTE[/div][div class=\'quotemain\'][!--quotec--]
    After the war, what does a solider become[/quote]

    a lot of the soliders in the napoleonic wars (especially british red coats) where basically [!--quoteo--][div class=\'quotetop\']QUOTE[/div][div class=\'quotemain\'][!--quotec--]Scum of the earth[/quote] as quoted by Arthur Wellesley aka Duke of Wellington. Ignored by the public during peace time, but when hostilities broke out, they where much more useful.
    When the war ended much of the army was disbanded many permanently maimed and wounded, living on just a few pence a die.

    There was also a shortage of labour, due to the influx of men, (also from the navy too) causing more problems. To sum it up the troops turned from being the heroic soldiers of the war to unwanted scum on the streets, discarded by the state.
     
  3. seely

    seely Trooper

    Re: 'the Aftermath'

    Awesome song, probably one of the best behing Blood On The Worlds hands and sign of the cross. The chorus is haunting and the lyrics really thought provoking (well, most of them on the album are......)

    Definately seems to me to be anearly version of Paschendale.........
     
  4. LooseCannon

    LooseCannon Yorktown-class aircraft carrier Staff Member

    Daily Song: The Aftermath

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    Today's song: The Aftermath

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    This song is one of the best ones on the album. Sure, some people will say the music is slow and maybe a little less interesting; but I think it is powerful and brooding. Though it's no Sign of the Cross, it is still full of the powerful, dark regret that filled a losing soldier after the First World War; as I've said previously, Paschendale is all-but the prequel to this track. Fantastic. 10/10.
     
  5. bearfan

    bearfan Ancient Mariner

    Re: Daily Song: The Aftermath

    Strong song, this is where IMO, the album picks up a bit.  Would not mind seeing this return to a future setlist.  Give it an 8.
     
  6. Forostar

    Forostar Conjure the Death Star again

    Re: Daily Song: The Aftermath

    This song has (as opposed to Fortunes of War and Sign of the Cross) a very strong midpiece, and I also love that calm intro, showcasing Janick's contribution (check Bruce's Son of a Gun or Maiden's Wasting Love).

    These parts are very strong especially the exciting midpiece, starting with "..After the War..." (very doomy!) and then the sudden acceleration with nice subtle rhythm guitars, plus Dave's shining melody. Later Blaze joins, ending with "I'm just a soldier .. !". Always looking forward to this.

    So far the great stuff. What do I find less about "The Aftermath"? Janick's solo I find not that imaginative, especially the end where he keeps repeating that motive (a bit annoying). I know it's normal to do that, while the chords change, but I prefer more variation.

    Other less favourite parts I find the couplets. I do not mind that they are slow. The problem is that they lack a good melody. These chords and vocal melodies sound like a child lullaby.

    In Fortunes of War this went way better. That was a way better melody, and it sounded darker, more threatening, heavier and more fitting.

    Conclusion: good lyrics are not everything. In Maiden they should be delivered with good music and good melodies, and unfortunately this only goes for the intro and the mid of the song.

    All in all I'll still give an 8, because the good parts are very good.  
     
  7. LooseCannon

    LooseCannon Yorktown-class aircraft carrier Staff Member

    Re: Daily Song: The Aftermath

    This is one of the songs Blaze did in Maiden I think he sounds best on. "In, the mud, and rain..." so awesome.
     
  8. Farhang

    Farhang Invader

    Re: Daily Song: The Aftermath

    Easily 10/10!
    The live version from the "The Angel and the Gambler" single album is even better.
     
  9. Forostar

    Forostar Conjure the Death Star again

    Re: Daily Song: The Aftermath

    I disagree 100%. Maybe he did well, but (as described) I dislike these parts because they are very simple, and he only follows the not very exciting chord structure.

    I'll do my say about Blaze's best performance when we get to Blood on the World's Hands.  :D
     
  10. Invader

    Invader Ancient Mariner

    Re: Daily Song: The Aftermath

    I always looked at this as the little brother of Fortunes of War; they're both basically about the same thing, but I like FoW more.  The verses are sort of annoying in this song ("In the mud and rain, what are we fighting for? Is it worth the pain, it is worth dying for?"), specifically how Blaze sings them.  The lyrics are great, but like Foro said, they need good music.  The song only really picks up at "After the war", after which it's generally excellent with a very nice instrumental section.  So, the part before 2:51 is rather mediocre (--> 7), but after that excellent (--> 9).  That averages out to a fair 8.
     
  11. Jeffmetal

    Jeffmetal Ancient Mariner

    Re: Daily Song: The Aftermath

    9. Another strong song with similar structure as many songs on the album, but even so, retaining an unique vibe intrinsically attached to its lyrics. Janick solo is one of Maiden's best. This song is a real trip into war. :edmetal:
     
  12. Babo 91

    Babo 91 Nomad

    Re: Daily Song: The Aftermath

    Anyone who thinks steve harris is over rated as a lyricist needs to listen to this album. This songs lyrics are just as strong as paschendales in my opinion and you really get a sense of what it would be like to be a soldier after the battle has finished. Love the part "im just a soldier..."

    10/10.

    i neglected this album for 2 years and now i cant stop listening, its so fucking dark and mooody
     
  13. Prowler_108

    Prowler_108 Trooper

    Re: Daily Song: The Aftermath

    Despite a lot of peoples opnion's here, I like this one a lot better than Fortunes of War.  Gets to the point quicker, better written.  9.  Some of the best lyrics on an album, that while fantastic, has some struggles in the lyric department.
     
  14. Black Thunder

    Black Thunder Ancient Mariner

    Re: Daily Song: The Aftermath

    Awesome song with poetic lyrics, and dark mood that fits into it pretty well.

    8/10.
     
  15. Vap

    Vap Ancient Mariner

    Re: Daily Song: The Aftermath

    Not the best of  The X Factor. It's still a nice song. 7/10
     
  16. The Mid-Distance Runner

    The Mid-Distance Runner Climb like a lemur!!

    Re: Daily Song: The Aftermath

    Well sung, well strummed, well drummed.

    8
     
  17. Unknown One

    Unknown One I see the ghost of navigators.

    Re: Daily Song: The Aftermath

    Very good lyrics and I like how Blaze delivers them. The main melody isn't as strong but the instrumental section lifts the song up. Overall, slightly better than Fortunes of War (basically a twin with the same subject matter), but not enough to give it an extra point. 8/10.
     
  18. Dr. Eddies Wingman

    Dr. Eddies Wingman Brighter than thousand_suns

    Re: Daily Song: The Aftermath

    This has grown to become my second favourite from this album. The lyrics are great, the mood of the song matches them well, and Blaze's delivery is powerful. The breakdown after the chorus, with the following buildup to the solo, is great, and the solo rocks the house down. 9/10.
     
  19. Jupz

    Jupz Ancient Mariner

    Re: Daily Song: The Aftermath

    7/10, but I realize I should have given 8/10. A pretty great song from The X Factor.
     
  20. Albie

    Albie Keeping an open eye on the Weeping Angels.

    Re: Daily Song: The Aftermath

    I had to revisit a few tracks as I have not played The X Factor in some time. This track is pretty damn good and has to rate as one of the best tracks of the Blaze era. I will give it a 9.
     

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