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Official Star Wars Thread

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by bearfan, Oct 30, 2012.

  1. Perun

    Perun Climbing like a monkey Staff Member

    It was pretty clear to me that the people on the balcony looking at the laser were the republican leadership.
     
  2. Mosh

    Mosh The years just pass like trains Staff Member

    Not to mention Hux has a monologue right before that where he explains that they are going to destroy the republic.

    I do agree that the Resistance and First Order could've been set up better though. We know that they are this trilogy's version of the Rebellion and the Empire respectively, which is enough to get us through the film's story, but it does leave the questions open of why the rebranding and why is the Resistance not just the Republic army. Maybe these will be answered in future films, but I suspect not.
     
  3. Perun

    Perun Climbing like a monkey Staff Member

    I had to leave this somewhere.

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  4. LooseCannon

    LooseCannon Self-propelled artillery Staff Member

    Can I just say that Domnhall Gleeson as Hux was marvellous? Evil just oozed off of him, as did his hatred of Kylo Ren.
     
  5. MrKnickerbocker

    MrKnickerbocker clap hands

    I don't think I've ever seen Domnhall Gleeson (or his father) do anything that wasn't marvelous.
     
  6. Mosh

    Mosh The years just pass like trains Staff Member

    He was great, and I loved his chemistry with Kylo Ren. There was a clear nod to Vader and Tarkin but two completely different characters and a different dynamic between them.
     
  7. Srogyy

    Srogyy Ancient Mariner

    A piece of recent Episode 8 news got me really excited. It appears that John Williams is already scoring the film, because Rian Johnson wants to use the music for editing (via https://twitter.com/BurnettRM/status/830816741726969856). Now that's really interesting when you think about it. Usually the composer has to work with a more or less finished product and much closer to the release, but in this case it might mean that Rian is letting Williams tell the story to some extent. If that's true then I love this approach, because it shows appreciation of what music brings to Star Wars. Well, obviously it's impossible to make the whole cut of the film around the music and that's definitely not the case, but at least some freedom on Williams' part is added value.

    I can't stress enough how much faith I have in Rian Johnson. This might be the best and most original Star Wars film. I mean all I've heard about it and what I've seen from this director thus far is extremely encouraging. That said, I know it's not a given and I'm in for a hell of a disappointment if the film doesn't blow my mind... :p
     
  8. Srogyy

    Srogyy Ancient Mariner

    First look at TLJ merch packaging. And most importantly: new outfits for Rey and Finn!

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  9. bearfan

    bearfan Ancient Mariner

    Looks like The Last Jedi is plural .. which I already assumed. Unless my admittedly poor German reading is not failing me, this looks pretty plural

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  10. Srogyy

    Srogyy Ancient Mariner

    Yes, it's plural in other languages as well. I'm surprised, to be honest. I liked the idea of singular more, but it's still a great title.
     
  11. soundwave

    soundwave Educated Fool

    Revisited the interesting fan theory (that allegedly comes from an early draft treatment) that Padme was 'killed by the emperor' instead of a broken heart at the end of ROTS....that he drained her life force to save Anakin and then told Anakin that Anakin was responsible to further fuel his torment. Really intriguing.

    I watched the PT again, and horrible acting/dialogue aside, it's actually a really tragic (and good story) that was simply in desperate need of a better director/writer to implement Lucas' great ideas. While Jake Lloyd was horribly cornball in the Phantom Menace, it actually makes Vader's fall that much more tragic (this goofy little boy suffers all of this horrible pain and turns into this twisted entity).
     
  12. Mosh

    Mosh The years just pass like trains Staff Member

    ROTS isn't bad at all. It is plagued with a lot of the same problems as the other two movies, but it overcomes those problems in a lot of ways. Still, it is part of a trilogy with a foundation that was so damaged that it negatively affects the final film. No matter how good ROTS was, it was never going to be able to jump over that hurdle. It also seems obvious that the story in ROTS is the only one Lucas was passionate about telling. Everything prior was filler.

    BTW, what is everybody's ranking of the Star Wars movies after Rogue One has had time to marinate?

    Empire
    New Hope
    Force Awakens
    Jedi
    Sith
    Rogue One
    Menace
    Clones
     
  13. soundwave

    soundwave Educated Fool

    ROTJ was the first movie that I ever saw in the theaters when I was a kid so it will always get my nostalgic vote (lame Ewoks and all), but Empire is still my overall winner.

    I still like Rogue One, but after letting it sink in, I don't think it's in my top tier.

    Empire
    Jedi
    TFA
    A New Hope
    Sith
    R1
    Clones
    Menace
     
  14. Mosh

    Mosh The years just pass like trains Staff Member

    I remember even as a kid not caring for the ewoks. Mostly because I found the scenes they were in to be pretty boring. I vividly remember fast forwarding through the Endor scenes on the VHS. :D
     
  15. Srogyy

    Srogyy Ancient Mariner

    I've never been able to come up with a ranking, because I genuinely love all of them (as corny as it sounds). Each for different reasons perhaps. I think I can say RotS and TESB are my two favourites, but after that it becomes difficult to tell. For example I can point out quite a few things I dislike about TFA, yet I feel like rewatching it all the time and always love the experience. It's a controversial thing to say, but I think ANH might be my least favourite just because it's not fully developed Star Wars yet IMO. But then it's obviously a masterpiece that started everything, so... there you go, I wouldn't know how to rank them.
     
  16. MrKnickerbocker

    MrKnickerbocker clap hands

    I definitely can't rank them. Regardless of how good they are the two newest flicks are still so new. I have actual emotional attachments to the original trilogy that date back to early childhood. Realistically, Rogue One and TFA are probably better than Jedi and maybe even ANH, but I just couldn't rank them that way.

    My fake ranking is:

    Empire
    ANH
    Jedi
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    prequels
     
  17. terrell39

    terrell39 Ancient Mariner

    Only change I would make is switching Menace and Clones. Clones is much darker and to me feels more like the OT than Menace.
     
  18. soundwave

    soundwave Educated Fool

    Yeah - not only is the OT entrenched in my childhood psyche, but we always had the OT on in the background during the holidays in my house (and I've continued the tradition with my own kids) so now I have all of those memories added in as well. Disney could make a SW film that is the caliber of citizen Kane and it still probably wouldn't earn my top spot.

    (Ironically, the same can be said about some Maiden albums for me for similar reasons).
     
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  19. Maturin

    Maturin Sköldpadda

    Favourite to least favourite (really, the only rank I'm dead set on is the last):

    Revenge of the Sith
    Rogue One
    The Phantom Menace
    A New Hope
    The Empire Strikes Back
    The Return of the Jedi
    Attack of the Clones
    The Force Awakens
     
  20. MrKnickerbocker

    MrKnickerbocker clap hands

    ...I just don't understand how that ranking can exist.
     
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