Moon Child
Ancient Mariner
Yeah, that would be nice too.
Actually. I'd rather see Bruce on a solo tour, than a new album. I mean, I'd love a new album, but I also want to see him live. It's time, it's been a while since he last toured.
You nailed it big time! Bands like Maiden, Kiss, Sabbath, Ozzy, etc. have nothing to gain financially anymore be putting out new material. That's the shape of the music industry at the moment. These classic bands make their money in arena halls and meet and greets. With everybody downloading just singles and such, added to bootlegging sites, it makes them work for free when creating new music. The music industry is more interested in teeny bopper, crap, uh, RAP, excuse me, and hip hop sales then metal. Iron Maiden tour their asses off because that's where they make their money. I'll bet they make more money playing one night in Santiago than a months worth of record sales! So for everybody that has been complaining of the length of time for a new album, it's the music industry, not necessarily maidens fault. Even KISS released an album thru Walmart because Walmart paid them upfront for the rights to sell it. After KISS got their checks from Wally. World, they could care less about if it sells or not! )There's not really surprising they are not wanting to rush into a new recording. They are most likely going to take a loss on it, and without touring directly after they aren't making any money.
You nailed it big time! Bands like Maiden, Kiss, Sabbath, Ozzy, etc. have nothing to gain financially anymore be putting out new material. That's the shape of the music industry at the moment. These classic bands make their money in arena halls and meet and greets. With everybody downloading just singles and such, added to bootlegging sites, it makes them work for free when creating new music. The music industry is more interested in teeny bopper, crap, uh, RAP, excuse me, and hip hop sales then metal. Iron Maiden tour their asses off because that's where they make their money. I'll bet they make more money playing one night in Santiago than a months worth of record sales! So for everybody that has been complaining of the length of time for a new album, it's the music industry, not necessarily maidens fault. Even KISS released an album thru Walmart because Walmart paid them upfront for the rights to sell it. After KISS got their checks from Wally. World, they could care less about if it sells or not! )
You nailed it big time! Bands like Maiden, Kiss, Sabbath, Ozzy, etc. have nothing to gain financially anymore be putting out new material. That's the shape of the music industry at the moment. These classic bands make their money in arena halls and meet and greets. With everybody downloading just singles and such, added to bootlegging sites, it makes them work for free when creating new music.
Besides your ignorance, the whole point of the music industry is to produce and sell goods, music. You act like it's a single entity who decides what flavor of the month they're going after now. Who would've thought the most popular, profitable genres would get the most attention, right?The music industry is more interested in teeny bopper, crap, uh, RAP, excuse me, and hip hop sales then metal
Pretty much nobody makes a profit off of album sales anymore. You take a loss on producing an album and hope that the album gets you attention and the money made from sales goes to the label helps you fund and get on tours. For everyone but the biggest artists in the world, that's how it goes.
Besides your ignorance, the whole point of the music industry is to produce and sell goods, music. You act like it's a single entity who decides what flavor of the month they're going after now. Who would've thought the most popular, profitable genres would get the most attention, right?
For the better part, metal and metal fans are still a minority; it's a niche genre when compared to other things.
I'm not denying the general (and long term) tendency in the music industry, but isn't Maiden some kind of exception? I mean, they've reached the number one spot of many charts for The Final Frontier, something which would'nt have been possible without their fanbase keeping on buying records instead of dowloading them for free. I remember reading an article posted on a french site saying that Maiden fans tending to actually BUY the records.
With the Internet, bands can potentially become very successful now by going viral online without having a record contract to start with. If they know the right people, they can cut an album on their computer and have a "mom and pop's" independent label distribute it. This is where the music industry has changed the most. It has all been forced to evolve, and I think record companies are trying to find and secure their place with the new changes so they can still turn a profit.
In part, I agree with you about metal still being a minority. Metal has always been on the back burner of the industry but has still been solid as far as profit. But that has a lot to do with the music industry's backing of what sells more. If a band like Maiden releases an album the same day Beyonce' releases one, who do you think is going to get the bigger sales display at a Best Buy or Target, or (insert your favorite store here).
As far as my comment about rap and hip hop being crap, that's my opinion. I personally don't respect anyone who has to take samples of someone else's creative work and cram it together to put rhymes to it to sell an album. These are the ones who are up on stage lip synching because their too busy trying to dry hump the stage and call that a dance move. That's my opinion. You have yours and I have mine.
You basically mirrored everything I was saying in my original post, so to that, welcome my friend, to the ignorant club!
Since you focused so much on the ignorance part, I'll start out by saying that I meant it as your dismal entire genres of music in one sentence. Obviously, I agreed with you on a couple of points.
Like that, that's a great point. I really wish you would've included that in your other post, because it's spot on.
Well, I think it's just a natural result of metal being a much more harsh, abrasive genre, dealing with themes, ideas that might "scare" a lot of people off, for lack of a better term. Also, another thing to consider is just advertising in general. Like, you brought up Beyonce. She's on Columbia Records, a huge label with a lot of spending money. They can put out ads for her music on everything from MTV to magazines with no issue.
Now, try replacing Beyonce's face on a magazine cover with something like, "R.R. Unholy Bastard & Phosgene Wargas" from Blasphemophagher. Not exactly the most marketable thing.
I would try and convince you, because you appear to be very misguided on the idea of hip-hop, but you seem to have made up your mind already.
Yup. Again, should've made myself more clear on that part. That's my bad.
Maiden are already mega multi-millionaires who have more money than they could ever know what to do with so taking any losses on money won't hurt them in the least.There's not really surprising they are not wanting to rush into a new recording. They are most likely going to take a loss on it, and without touring directly after they aren't making any money.