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Kamelot

Discussion in 'Music Discussion' started by GuineaPig, Apr 27, 2009.

  1. MrKnickerbocker

    MrKnickerbocker clap hands

    I thought this was one of the least impressive tracks on Haven, but apparently it's a single now with a rather silly video:

     
  2. Night Prowler

    Night Prowler ɹǝlʍoɹԀ ʇɥƃᴉN Staff Member

    Video shot in Belgrade :D
     
  3. Night Prowler

    Night Prowler ɹǝlʍoɹԀ ʇɥƃᴉN Staff Member

  4. MrKnickerbocker

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    I just started listening to Kamelot's entire discography as they are a winter/Christmas metal band to me :)

    Whoa, boy, Eternity is terrible. This Geoff Tate-wannabe just ruins everything. The music isn't great to begin with, pretty formulaic, but this guy's horrendous wailing just cripples my enjoyment of it. See what I mean:

     
  5. MrKnickerbocker

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    Just finished my Kamelot relisten and here's my final album stats:

    01. The Black Halo - 9.0
    02. Karma - 8.5
    03. Epica - 8.4
    04. The Fourth Legacy - 8.4
    05. Silverthorn - 8.4
    06. Haven - 8.3
    07. Ghost Opera - 7.2
    08. Poetry for the Poisoned - 7.1
    09. Siege Perilous - 5.9
    10. Dominion - 4.6
    11. Eternity - 4.2

    #'s 3-5 all technically have the same rating, but I ranked based on my heart. I was shocked at how high the Tommy albums ranked, but after the last two disappointing Khan records they are truly a breath of fresh air and technically more "progressive" and "classic-sounding" than anything since Epica. Despite TBH being easily the band's best overall album, the cracks in their creativity started to show there and quickly overwhelmed them on the next two records (namely overuse of studio technology, mid-tempo, and vocal effects). The return to faster material, mostly clean vocals, and more keyboard/guitar solos on the last albums is great to hear. Can't wait to see what the next Kamelot record sounds like.

    In-depth song rankings for each album:
    ETERNITY - 4.2
    Eternity - 3/10
    Black Tower - 2/10
    Call of the Sea - 4/10
    Proud Nomad - 5/10
    Red Sands - 2/10
    One of the Hunted - 5/10
    Fire Within - 5/10
    Warbird - 4/10
    What About Me - 5/10
    Etude jongleur/The Gleeman - 7/10

    DOMINION - 4.6
    Ascension/Heaven - 6/10
    Rise Again - 5/10
    One Day I’ll Win - 3/10
    We Are Not Separate - 5/10
    Birth of a Hero - 5/10
    Creation - 9/10
    Sin - 5/10
    Song of Roland - 3/10
    Crossing Two Rivers - 2/10
    Troubled Mind - 3/10

    SIEGE PERILOUS - 5.9
    Providence - 7/10
    Millenium - 6/10
    King’s Eyes - 6/10
    Expedition - 3/10
    Where I Reign - 3/10
    Rhydin - 7/10
    Parting Visions - 7/10
    Once a Dream - 6/10
    Irea - 5/10
    Siege - 9/10

    THE FOURTH LEGACY - 8.4
    New Allegiance/The Fourth Legacy - 10/10
    Silent Goddess - 8/10
    Desert Reign/Nights of Arabia - 7/10
    The Shadow of Uther - 8/10
    A Sailorman’s Hymn - 10/10
    Alexandria - 7/10
    The Inquisitor - 8/10
    Glory - 8/10
    Until Kingdom Come - 8/10
    Lunar Sanctum - 10/10


    KARMA - 8.5
    Regalia apertura/Forever - 10/10
    Wings of Despair - 9/10
    The Spell - 10/10
    Don’t You Cry - 8/10
    Karma - 10/10
    The Light I Shine on You - 7/10
    Temples of Gold - 8/10
    Across the Highlands - 7/10
    Elizabeth I: Mirror Mirror - 7/10
    Elizabeth II: Requiem for the Innocent - 8/10
    Elizabeth III: Fall from Grace - 10/10

    EPICA - 8.4
    Prologue/Center of the Universe - 10/10
    Farewell - 10/10
    Interlude I: Opiate Soul/The Edge of Paradise - 9/10
    Wander - 8/10
    Interlude II: Omen/Descent of the Archangel - 7/10
    Interlude III: At the Banquet/A Feast for the Vain - 6/10
    On the Coldest Winter Night - 7/10
    Lost and Damned - 10/10
    Helena’s Theme/Interlude IV: Dawn/The Mourning After (Carry On) - 7/10
    III Ways to Epica - 10/10

    THE BLACK HALO - 9.0
    March of Mephisto - 10/10
    When the Lights Are Down - 8/10
    The Haunting (Somewhere in Time) - 10/10
    Soul Society - 10/10
    Interlude I: Dei Gratia/Abandoned - 9/10
    This Pain - 7/10
    Moonlight - 8/10
    Interlude II: Un Assassinio Molto Silenzioso/The Black Halo - 10/10
    Nothing Ever Dies - 9/10
    Memento Mori - 10/10
    Interlude III: Midnight - Twelve Tolls for a New Day/Serenade - 9/10

    GHOST OPERA - 7.2
    Solitaire/Rule the World - 8/10
    Ghost Opera - 10/10
    The Human Stain - 7/10
    Blücher - 5/10
    Love You to Death - 7/10
    Up Through the Ashes - 8/10
    Mourning Star - 5/10
    Silence of the Darkness - 8/10
    Anthem - 4/10
    EdenEcho - 10/10

    POETRY FOR THE POISONED - 7.1
    The Great Pandemonium - 8/10
    If Tomorrow Came - 4/10
    Dear Editor/The Zodiac - 8/10
    Hunter’s Season - 9/10
    House on a Hill - 10/10
    Necropolis - 8/10
    My Train of Thoughts - 6/10
    Seal of Woven Years - 4/10
    Poetry for the Poisoned - 7/10
    Once Upon a Time - 7/10

    SILVERTHORN - 8.4
    Manus Dei/Sacrimony (Angel of Afterlife) - 10/10
    Ashes to Ashes - 8/10
    Torn - 6/10
    Song for Jolee - 9/10
    Veritas - 9/10
    My Confession - 10/10
    Silverthorn - 8/10
    Falling Like the Fahrenheit - 9/10
    Solitaire - 7/10
    Prodigal Son/Continuum - 8/10

    HAVEN - 8.3
    Fallen Star - 7/10
    Insomnia - 10/10
    Citizen Zero - 10/10
    Veil of Elysium - 10/10
    Under Grey Skies - 9/10
    My Therapy - 6/10
    Ecclesia/End of Innocence - 8/10
    Beautiful Apocalypse - 7/10
    Liar Liar (Wasteland Monarchy) - 10/10
    Here’s to the Fall - 5/10
    Revolution/Haven - 10/10
     
  6. Night Prowler

    Night Prowler ɹǝlʍoɹԀ ʇɥƃᴉN Staff Member

    I haven't listened to Kamelot in a long time, but I enjoy these songs the most:

    Would give it a 9.

    :ok:

    Swap the ratings of 2nd and 3rd song.

    All 10's.
     
  7. MrKnickerbocker

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    It becomes really hard for me to give 10/10's on those last 2 Khan albums. Even the good songs just sound like Kamelot AC/DCing their previous good songs, especially Once Upon a Time.
     
  8. Forostar

    Forostar Conjure the Death Star again

    I remember Uther as being very enjoyable. Probably a 9. Like Night Prowler, I'd also rank Arabia higher.

    Edge of Paradise: I probably go for a 9 or 10. Phenomenal chorus. Live, a highlight in the setlist when I saw them. Never cared about the Epica and later albums (The Fourth Legacy is my favourite Kamelot and nothing comes close to it(s style)), but this track stood out.
     
  9. MrKnickerbocker

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    I can understand dropping off for Ghost Opera and later, or even The Black Halo as the style change is pretty different, but I find Epica to be a very similar musical style to Karma/TFL.
     
  10. Forostar

    Forostar Conjure the Death Star again

    Sorry I meant: Karma and later albums.
     
  11. MrKnickerbocker

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    So you only like The Fourth Legacy or do you like the first three albums, too? Cause I find those first three mostly insufferable (even the one with Khan).
     
  12. terrell39

    terrell39 Ancient Mariner

    Old news but thought I should put this in the appropriate thread:

    http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/ka...north-american-tour-with-delain-battle-beast/

    Saw Delain back in May and really enjoyed them. Since this tour was announced I am now getting into Battle Beast and Kamelot. Love the Battle Beast material, both with former singer and current one.

    Kamelot is going to be an acquired taste for me but I am enjoying it more now than at first. By the time May comes around, I will be much more familiar with the material.
     
  13. MrKnickerbocker

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    I'm excited for this tour. I love Kamelot and really enjoyed Battle Beast during their opening run for Sabaton last spring.

    Delain, meh, but I'll sit through them.
     
  14. Black Wizard

    Black Wizard Out of the Silent Planet

    That looks like a fantastic tour. Delain are great live Knicky, you'll enjoy them.
     
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  15. MrKnickerbocker

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    I saw them open for Sabaton/Nightwish in SLC a couple years ago. They were...eh, they were trying really hard but also using hundreds of samples and Charlotte's voice is just not for me. But, they're certainly not terrible or anything, just not my cup of tea.
     
  16. Black Wizard

    Black Wizard Out of the Silent Planet

    Well, I respect your opinion of course. :p

    I would like to see Kamelot though, despite only knowing two of their albums.
     

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