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Fates Warning

Discussion in 'No Prayer For The Dying' started by Anonymous, Apr 11, 2004.

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How good is Fates Warning on a scale of 1-10?

  1. 10

    9.4%
  2. 9

    21.9%
  3. 8

    12.5%
  4. 7

    9.4%
  5. 6

    31.3%
  6. 5

    9.4%
  7. 4

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  8. 3

    3.1%
  9. 2

    3.1%
  10. 1

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  1. Anonymous

    Anonymous Guest

    Here, you can read other visitors' comments on 'Fates Warning' as well as post your own. Any contribution to the commentary will be much appreciated, may it be cultural references relevant to the song (links to related websites, interpretations that may have been overlooked in the Commentary, and the like) or personal essays related to the topic of the song. Just be aware that messages that are either off-topic or too wacky may be deleted.
     
  2. Uwe

    Uwe Trooper

    A pretty average song, a spooky intro, some good ideas and harmonies, but nothing outstanding overall.
     
  3. dogigniter

    dogigniter Ancient Mariner

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    I think its an outstanding song! Real quality intro then exploding into the main song. Solo is great.
     
  4. Ranko

    Ranko I'll shoot the gunner first!

    The name of this song is somewhat weird, shouldn't it be Fate's Warning? Has it ever been discussed here? I know that a number of regulars are pretty strict about their spelling and grammar, this certainly shouldn't have gone unnoticed...
     
  5. Perun

    Perun Climbing like a monkey Staff Member

    "Fate's" would be a contraction of "fate is". It is a common mistake, but still a mistake. Same would go for "Fates' Warning", which would only be correct if the word is "fates", not "fate".
     
  6. SinisterMinisterX

    SinisterMinisterX Illuminatus Staff Member

    I'm not so sure, Perun. If I talk about Jerry's enormous nose, that's not "Jerry is". It's a possessive word.

    The idea of 's meaning "is" only applies to a few contractions like it's, where's, etc. And only because of that do we make a special case for "its" being the possessive form of "it".

    I have always believed that the song title is wrong, and should be Fate's Warning. I have never understood why they don't include the apostrophe there. I've also never cared enough about it to complain...


    Maybe it always seemed OK to me because I'm also familiar with the band Fates Warning, who make the same mistake, and I've just gotten used to it.
     
  7. Perun

    Perun Climbing like a monkey Staff Member

    But are you so sure it's "Jerry's enormous nose" and not "Jerrys enormous nose"?
     
  8. Invader

    Invader Ancient Mariner

    You're questioning Mr. DICKtionary on grammar? :D

    I've always used "Jerry's enormous nose", for the record, and I've never been corrected by anyone for it.  But I don't remember ever noticing the possible mistake in the song title, though I've always been annoyed about The Razors Edge.
     
  9. SinisterMinisterX

    SinisterMinisterX Illuminatus Staff Member

    Yes, I am 100% correct on that one. At least for US English. Maybe the Europeans have it wrong different, like how they add unnecessary letters to words like color. :bigsmile:
     
  10. Perun

    Perun Climbing like a monkey Staff Member

    He may be Mr DICKtionary, but I'm still the EnC*NTopedia.

    I would assume it is indeed a British vs American thing. I remember my English teacher being immensely picky about it, and she insisted on us using British English.

    I can't be arsed to find out right now, though. ;)
     
  11. Forostar

    Forostar Conjure the Death Star again

    So the either the band Fates Warning either Iron Maiden did something wrong. Not both. ;)
     
  12. LooseCannon

    LooseCannon Yorktown-class aircraft carrier Staff Member

    SMX is right in Canada too, which does have a more British-style grammar than our neighbours (see what I did there).
     
  13. ______no5

    ______no5 The Angel Of The Odd

    Mr DICKtionary is our awesomeness and yes, he's always right, except the 'or' issue  :D

    While there is no (?) objective evidence about it and certainly I'm not the right person to provide English lessons,
    I'm quite sure that Fates Warning stands for Fates' Warning. Yes.
    Or should I say 'the warning of fate' ?

    Bonus quote : Have I got a big nose, Mum?

    Ha! That was fucking awesome, Foro! Be praised man  :ok:
     
  14. national acrobat

    national acrobat Ancient Mariner

    It's the same in English English.

    I always been annoyed by the song 'Who do you love?', but more annoyed at myself for being annoyed. Make sense?
     
  15. Perun

    Perun Climbing like a monkey Staff Member

    Okay, the time has come for me to admit I was wrong. Still surprised, though.

    Not really. ;)
     
  16. Ranko

    Ranko I'll shoot the gunner first!

    Okay, it would make sense to view the meaning of the title as "warning of fate", I agree. But in that case, you'd still need to write fate's, not fates'.

    Fates' would mean "the warning of two or more fates", because the apostrophe goes at the end of possesive plurals (so you wouldn't have to write or to pronounce fates's). And I doubt that there is more than one fate. :D
     
  17. LooseCannon

    LooseCannon Yorktown-class aircraft carrier Staff Member

  18. Ranko

    Ranko I'll shoot the gunner first!

    Did not know that, thanks.
     
  19. LooseCannon

    LooseCannon Yorktown-class aircraft carrier Staff Member

    And now you know why it is Fates'.
     
  20. ______no5

    ______no5 The Angel Of The Odd

    It's all Greek to me  :D
     

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