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Empire Of The Clouds

Discussion in 'The Book of Souls' started by SinisterMinisterX, Aug 22, 2015.

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How good is Empire of the Clouds on a scale of 1-10?

  1. 10

    55.2%
  2. 9

    25.9%
  3. 8

    10.3%
  4. 7

    1.7%
  5. 6

    3.4%
  6. 5

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  7. 4

    1.7%
  8. 3

    1.7%
  9. 2

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  10. 1

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  1. Zare

    Zare Dream of broken citadels

    Definetely. Put something like 'the day the mistook park bench for an airship' to close it.
     
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  2. LooseCannon

    LooseCannon Yorktown-class aircraft carrier Staff Member

    Welcome aboard, Matt S! I've never heard the track but I will go and listen to it.
     
  3. fekso

    fekso Nomad

    Dickson traditionally writes short, fast songs. Here it seems he wants to have a go at the progressive concept. I dont know, it feels as if it was made to be long for the sake of being long. 1/10
     
  4. matic22

    matic22 H is shorter for God.

    1 of 10 because of lenght and no other arguments? You need to learn how to judge songs. TRATB has a lot more problems for me, but I still gave it a 6.

    Or you are just a troll.
     
  5. MrKnickerbocker

    MrKnickerbocker clap hands

    Yep, because Revelations, Brave New World, Powerslave, If Eternity Should Fail, Brighter Than a Thousand Suns, Coming Home, Ghost of the Navigator, Journeyman, The Longest Day, Lord of Light, Wasting Love, These Colours Don't Run, Starblind, etc. are all short and fast and not progressive.
     
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  6. LooseCannon

    LooseCannon Yorktown-class aircraft carrier Staff Member

    Don't forget all his solo short unprogressive rockers, like Book of Thel, Gates of Urizon, Darkside of Aquarius, and so on.
     
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  7. CriedWhenBrucieLeft

    CriedWhenBrucieLeft Ancient Mariner

    Never rated Dickson.
     
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  8. matic22

    matic22 H is shorter for God.

    OOOH I see! He thinks that Alex Dickson wrote EOTC...

    But even he can co-write amazing stories in songs like Penguins On The Moon with Sack Trick.
     
  9. jazz from hell

    jazz from hell Ancient Mariner

    Alex Dickson is a great player.
     
  10. fekso

    fekso Nomad

    No. I'm sorry for not spelling correctly on the internet. My mom must be so disapointedo_O

    And how many of those songs are written by himself? Relevations, Powerslave, IESF right? I bet IESF was written with a solo band member and the other two are 33 years old. I'm just saying, that to me, EOTC is a bit out of character (compared to what he brought to the table for the last 20 years) and overthought (just putting a bunch of songs together into one big).
     
  11. fekso

    fekso Nomad

    Highly unlikley that they were written by himself only.
     
  12. fekso

    fekso Nomad

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  13. fekso

    fekso Nomad

    I remember when TFF came out and everyone said WTWWB was the best Iron Maiden song ever. You dont really hear people say that anymore and I'm sure EOTC will go in that direction. Just like with The X Factor, time will reveal the quality of the songs. So many people that regard that album as the hidden diamond in the discography today.
     
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  14. Magnus

    Magnus Educated Fool

    I think Empire is very overrated, and also that what you said

    is unfortunately valid for quite a few other recent Maiden songs which sound like totally different ideas thrown together
     
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  15. fekso

    fekso Nomad

    Although this sometimes work out. Murray and Harris had two separate songs that together became Benjamin Breeg.
     
    Last edited: Jul 15, 2017
  16. fekso

    fekso Nomad

    I feel a little bit shitty for slaming this song, but at this point with them being so popular (I was there in 1998 when they couldnt even breathe without being criticized) they could all fart into a microphone or record an extended version of The Angel or the Gambler and still reach the number one spot on Billboard.

    The same way the albums from the 90's are being disregarded because Blaze is singing, the same way Maiden can record anything today and still generate a hype.
     
    Last edited: Jul 15, 2017
  17. Diesel 11

    Diesel 11 Come to the Sabbath

    That I would support.
     
  18. fekso

    fekso Nomad

    Iron Maiden - The Angel and The Gambler [Extended 2017 version featuring Bruce Dickinson] Total length 19:03
    Including 40% extra"Dont You Think I Could Save Your Life", 20 % extra keyboards
     
  19. Diesel 11

    Diesel 11 Come to the Sabbath

    That would be awesome.
     
  20. fekso

    fekso Nomad

    When playing it live Janick will introduce a new stage move - splits! While balancing a guitar on his head. Michael Kenney will appear onstage in an angel outfit while hanging over the band with the help of the Gene Simmons TM flying rig. Live version will also include an extended version of Nickos 2013 Sao Paulo drum solo and the singalong part from Running Free (also extended) that will give us a live version clocking in at 32:01
     
    Last edited: Jul 15, 2017

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