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Empire Of The Clouds

Discussion in 'The Book of Souls' started by SinisterMinisterX, Aug 22, 2015.

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How good is Empire of the Clouds on a scale of 1-10?

  1. 10

    54.4%
  2. 9

    26.3%
  3. 8

    10.5%
  4. 7

    1.8%
  5. 6

    3.5%
  6. 5

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  7. 4

    1.8%
  8. 3

    1.8%
  9. 2

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  10. 1

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  1. SinisterMinisterX

    SinisterMinisterX Illuminatus Staff Member

    Discuss your thoughts about "Empire Of The Clouds" here!
     
  2. Travis The Dragon

    Travis The Dragon My Maiden show was a SUPER EMOTIONAL EXPERIENCE!

    This is the song I'm most looking forward to hearing. Bruce playing piano as well as violins in it! I really think we're in for what could top classic epics such as Alexander and Hallowed.
     
  3. SinisterMinisterX

    SinisterMinisterX Illuminatus Staff Member

    Same here. 18 minutes and suggestions that it will truly be something new for Maiden. I am musically aroused.
     
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  4. Mosh

    Mosh The years just pass like trains Staff Member

    Some of the descriptions I've read makes me think we may hear a strong Genesis and/or Arthur Brown influence.
     
  5. Gk1

    Gk1 Ancient Mariner

    At least they are trying something different. Having the album split in two CDs is something that can work in favor of the specific song. I trust Bruce did a good job. However some reviews hint that it is a bit too long. We'll see. It is that no matter how good it would be, I would never have the time to go through all of it unless I decide to book some time. :)
     
  6. shadowpants

    shadowpants DEEPER GREY CAME TO MOURN

    @Forostar, been really enjoying your feedback on the other songs. Thanks so much. How bout this one?
    The Biggie :D
     
  7. shadowpants

    shadowpants DEEPER GREY CAME TO MOURN

    Sorry....your in the middle of writing others. Impatient me. really appreciate
     
  8. The Flash

    The Flash Dennis Wilcock did 9/11

    I should be off to bed, just waiting for Foro to post a comment on this one. :D
     
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  9. Gk1

    Gk1 Ancient Mariner

    He only has to do a couple more! Come on Foro we believe in you! lol
     
  10. Forostar

    Forostar Conjure the Death Star again

    This epic album closer starts calmly with Bruce on the piano. He plays a memorable tune (also on kazoo on the flight to Cardiff!) shining in its simplicity. Not saying that it's per se easy to play, but it's a strong, not too complicated or too fast melody that certainly stays in your head. What we get is a magnificent build-up. He adds his voice, and all others join in an individual manner. A feast for the ears. Some guitars accentuate, or filling notes around it, others play more harmonical together with Bruce. Harris plays a wonderful bass pattern and Nicko does a kind of marching rhythm on his snare drum. The band takes everything out of it, as much as they can. I did not feel it was cacaphonic. A lot of stuff happens, but it is nice to focus on single motives, or you can just switch to the whole sum. And there are more motives, nothing gets too lengthy. Wonderful melodies follow.

    The chorus is very good, and all the words in the song are as well. They portray a vivid picture, like memories of a witness, in chronological order. After the melodic -let's say catchy part- stops we get to the crash, where Bruce plays a very fast motive in a very different modus. Bruce told us that Nicko was important in helping to create a special sound, trying to make the sound of going down and crashing in the ground (sorry I forgot how he did that, I think it was with some sort of a bow string, perhaps on a gong or something). Later the song gets wilder, with every musical instrument repeating their parts while Nicko does stuff that sound like a drum solo. Pretty cool and quite exciting. There's also another Monts├ęgur-style riffing and if I remember well, there are two guitar solos: D / A.

    I am not describing this all in order but one of the highlights was a part with a complex time signature. First Nicko holds back while the others have started it, and then he suddenly joins making a great grooving rhythm out of it. If I have to be honest, in an earlier song, I think it was The Red and the Black, Nicko's drumming lacked somewhat in a certain part. It kind of had the speed of DLTTEOAS but he left out a lot of bassdrums, doing mainly his thing on ride cymbal and snare drum. I thought it was a bit odd. I thought that if this was played in 2000, he e.g. might have drummed more in the vein of the fast, heavy part in Ghost of the Navigator. But.... in this song Nicko makes up for it! Inventive and cool rhythmic playing!

    edit:
    http://forum.maidenfans.com/threads...ral-album-discussion.32230/page-2#post-536102
     
    Last edited: Aug 28, 2015
  11. Gk1

    Gk1 Ancient Mariner

    Thanks Foro!
     
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  12. Flagg

    Flagg Prowler

    Thanks...Can't wait to hear this masterpiece
     
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  13. Shadow

    Shadow Deluxe Edition Staff Member

    Thanks for taking the time to write this, Foro. It's more informative than any of the professional reviews I've read, as you actually talk about the music.
     
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  14. Forostar

    Forostar Conjure the Death Star again

    My pleasure!
     
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  15. Shadow

    Shadow Deluxe Edition Staff Member

    Damnit, I want to hear this now.
     
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  16. Brigantium

    Brigantium Work Geordie for hire Staff Member

    People were whistling it on the plane... :)
     
  17. I just hope it isn't too much
     
  18. Brigantium

    Brigantium Work Geordie for hire Staff Member

    God, no. Never.
     
  19. Well....I didn't quite like that description of the "crash"....it sounds like they just tried to make as much noise and mess as they could?.... I hopefully got it wrong though.
     
  20. Brigantium

    Brigantium Work Geordie for hire Staff Member

    Nope. They play real music.
     

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