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'Arry's Epics (7 minutes and longer)

Discussion in 'Commentary Discussion' started by matic22, Sep 29, 2015.

  1. matic22

    matic22 H is shorter for God.

    I was going through TRATB thread and there was a question about Steve's epics in recent years and if he can still write a good epic. So I decided to make my list from worst to best Harris epic, using only songs written only by Harry and are longer than 7 minutes.

    Candidates: Phantom, Hallowed, To Tame A Land, Rime, CSIT, HCW, Alexander, SSOASS, FOTD (It's longer than Hallowed,...), Sign Of The Cross, Fortunes Of War, The Angel And The Gambler, Clansman, Don't Look To The Eyes..., Blood Brothers, No More Lies, FTGGOG, WTWWB and TRATB.

    So here is my list:
    1. Seventh Son Of A Seventh Son
    2. Hallowed Be Thy Name
    3. Rime Of The Acient Mariner
    4. Alexander The Great
    5. Sign Of The Cross
    6. When The Wild Wind Blows
    7. Caught Somewhere In Time
    8. Blood Brothers
    9. The Clansman
    10. For The Greater Good Of God
    11. Phantom Of The Opera
    12. Heaven Can Wait
    13. To Tame A Land
    14. Fear Of The Dark
    15. No More Lies
    16. Fortunes Of War
    17. The Red And The Black
    18. Don't Look To The Eyes Of A Stranger
    19. The Angel And The Gambler

    *Edit: HCW added later. Thanks for reminding @Collin.
    Edit 2: CSIT added.
     
    Last edited: Sep 30, 2015
  2. Liveone

    Liveone Nomad

    I would put POTO and The Clansman in the top three.
    That track listing would make a great triple album though.
     
  3. LooseCannon

    LooseCannon Yorktown-class aircraft carrier Staff Member

    Phew, that's a rough one. I think personally it goes a little like this....

    1. Hallowed Be Thy Name
    2. Phantom of the Opera (really a 1a)
    3. Rime of the Ancient Mariner
    4. The Clansman
    5. Sign of the Cross
    6. For the Greater Good of God
    7. When the Wild Wind Blows
    8. Fear of the Dark
    9. Alexander the Great
    10. The Red and the Black
    12. Seventh Son of a Seventh Son
    12. No More Lies
    13. The Angel and the Gambler
    14. Fortunes of War
    15. To Tame a Land
    16. Blood Brothers
    17. Don't Look to the Eyes of a Stranger
     
  4. Night Prowler

    Night Prowler ɹǝlʍoɹԀ ʇɥƃᴉN Staff Member

    TRATB ahead of SSOASS must be a typo.
     
  5. LooseCannon

    LooseCannon Yorktown-class aircraft carrier Staff Member

    Nope
     
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  6. Mosh

    Mosh The years just pass like trains Staff Member

    This is tough

    1. Rime of the Ancient Mariner
    2. Alexander the Great
    3. Sign of the Cross
    4. The Clansman
    5. Phantom of the Opera
    6. Seventh Son of a Seventh Son
    7. Blood Brothers
    8. When the Wild Wind Blows
    9. Hallowed Be Thy Name
    10. The Red and the Black
    11. For the Greater Good of God
    12. To Tame a Land
    13. Fortunes of War
    14. Fear of the Dark
    15. No More Lies
    16. The Angel and the Gambler
    17. Don't Look to the Eyes of a Stranger

    That's just how I feel today though. The bottom four are a definite, everything else could change completely. Maybe tomorrow Fortunes of War will be my favorite. Though I don't really consider it an epic.
     
  7. Collin

    Collin Jambi

    1. Hallowed Be Thy Name
    2. Rime of the Ancient Mariner
    3. When the Wild Wind Blows
    4. Alexander the Great
    5. Phantom of the Opera
    6. Seventh Son of a Seventh Son
    7. Sign of the Cross
    8. For the Greater Good of God
    9. The Red and the Black
    10. Heaven Can Wait
    11. Blood Brothers
    12. The Clansman
    13. Fear of the Dark
    14. No More Lies
    15. Fortunes of War
    16. To Tame a Land
    17. Angel and the Gambler
    18. DLTTEOAS

    @matic22 According to your criteria Heaven Can Wait needs to be added.
     
  8. matic22

    matic22 H is shorter for God.

    Oooh forgot about that...:eek:
     
  9. mckindog

    mckindog Living for Sanctuary from the law Staff Member

    Good poll (and some of the best songs in the catalogue):

    10. Hallowed Be Thy Name
    10. Rime Of The Ancient Mariner
    10. Phantom Of The Opera
    10. Sign Of The Cross
    10. When The Wild Wind Blows
    10. The Clansman
    9. Fear Of The Dark
    9. No More Lies
    9. The Red And The Black
    9. Alexander The Great
    8. Blood Brothers
    8. To Tame A Land
    8. For The Greater Good Of God
    7. The Angel And The Gambler
    7. Seventh Son Of A Seventh Son
    7. Fortunes Of War
    7. Heaven Can Wait
    5. Don't Look To The Eyes Of A Stranger
     
  10. Forostar

    Forostar Conjure the Death Star again

    Caught Somewhere in Time belongs in this list, @matic22


    And Steve wrote more epics (e.g. ATSS which is only 8 seconds under 7 minutes), so could this topic be called "Harris' Epics of 7 minutes and longer"? :)
     
  11. Dr. Eddies Wingman

    Dr. Eddies Wingman Brighter than thousand_suns

    If I may digress a bit: What is an epic, really? This is a list of long songs, of which I'd argue that at least a couple aren't epics - because they don't tell a story. With that in mind, you could argue that Aces High and The Trooper are both epic songs, whereas The Angel and the Gambler isn't. With that in mind, I'd argue Afraid To Shoot Strangers isn't an epic either - it talks of the thoughts of a soldier at a point in time, before going to war. Thoughts, anyone?

    As for the ranking of the listed songs, I'll have to give that one a bit more thought.
     
  12. Gk1

    Gk1 Ancient Mariner

    Guys, TAATG is not an epic,come on!
     
  13. Liveone

    Liveone Nomad

    We need to try and come up with a definitive classification of an epic.
    Perhaps a song that has a certain feel or is about a particular subject.
    I would agree that TAATG isn't an epic, neither is HCW.
     
  14. frus

    frus Barbed Wire Hen

    Blood Brothers and No More Lies are definitely not epics either
    And CSIT is also just a long song, not epic
     
  15. Brigantium

    Brigantium Work Geordie for hire Staff Member

    I'm sure there's been at least one 'what is an epic' thread, if anyone wants to do a search. ;)
     
  16. Collin

    Collin Jambi

    Wow, I forgot about CSIT. That's my favorite song on the album. :facepalm:
     
  17. LooseCannon

    LooseCannon Yorktown-class aircraft carrier Staff Member

    I don't think just song length makes an epic.
     
  18. frus

    frus Barbed Wire Hen

    Of course
     
  19. RBK

    RBK Prowler

    In order:
    Hallowed Be Thy Name
    Seventh Son Of A Seventh Son
    Fear Of The Dark
    Phantom Of The Opera
    Caught Somewhere In Time
    Rime Of The Acient Mariner
    Heaven Can Wait
    The Angel And The Gambler
    Alexander The Great
    To Tame A Land
    Sign Of The Cross
    The Red And The Black
    Fortunes Of War
    Don't Look To The Eyes Of A Stranger
    When The Wild Wind Blows
    For The Greater Good Of God
    Blood Brothers
    The Clansman
    No More Lies

    I particularly despise the last 5 and hope they'll never be played again live. Ever.
     
  20. Durango

    Durango Invader

    Personal ranking :

    1. Hallowed Be Thy Name
    2. Seventh Son Of A Seventh Son
    3. The Clansman
    4. Phantom Of The Opera
    5. Sign Of The Cross
    6. Alexander The Great
    7. Rime Of The Ancient Mariner
    8. To Tame A Land
    9. Blood Brothers
    10. Fortunes Of War
    11. Don't Look To The Eyes Of A Stranger
    12. Caught Somewhere In Time
    13. When The Wild Wind Blows
    14. For The Greater Good Of God
    15. Fear Of The Dark
    16. The Red And The Black
    17. No More Lies
    18. Heaven Can Wait
    19. The Angel And The Gambler

    Songs in the middle of the ranking is more or less interchangeable, I could swap order just depending on my mood.
    Note : FotD gain like, 7 or 8 places if we talk about a live version: it's really terrific and a very classical highlight of any Maiden concert for a very good reason.

    And yes, I actually do like Fortunes of War and Don't Look to the Eyes of a Stranger. A lot.
     

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