What was Blaze like live?

Travis_AKA_fonzbear2000 said:
Well, at least he'd hit the right notes which would sound better than what it does sound like.

Just off the top of my head Trav, think of the chorus in The Evil That Men Do. Got it? Good. Now, Bruce is lashing it out there in your head yeah? Good. Now real quick sing the same notes in your head an octave lower and apply Blaze's voice...He's in key but the song sounds really flat. It's a lose lose situation for the guy  :(
 
Yeah, TETMD's chorus was really bad, especially because he had to sing "THE EEEEEvil", the same "e" sound twice in a row, which I guess only Bruce can pull off.
 
snake plissken said:
Just off the top of my head Trav, think of the chorus in The Evil That Men Do. Got it? Good. Now, Bruce is lashing it out there in your head yeah? Good. Now real quick sing the same notes in your head an octave lower and apply Blaze's voice...He's in key but the song sounds really flat. It's a lose lose situation for the guy  :(
If he sings it within the same octave as the verses on Look For The Truth, I would think it would sound pretty good.
 
To get back on track, I started this topic to figure out what he "looked" like live, his mannerisms and showmanship abilities.  I can hear how he sounds, and it is a bit hit or miss.  I saw some old Wolfsbane videos and he was all over the place like a madman, I loved it.  But the few vids i've seen of him is him just standing there.
 
There are two/three pro-shot gigs from TXF and VXI tours. Just search youtube for them
 
Monsters of Rock 1996 (aka Brazil 1996) and Curritiba 1998 are definitely pro-shot. The bootlegs even include other parts from the television broadcast.
 
chaosapiant said:
To get back on track, I started this topic to figure out what he "looked" like live, his mannerisms and showmanship abilities.  I can hear how he sounds, and it is a bit hit or miss.  I saw some old Wolfsbane videos and he was all over the place like a madman, I loved it.  But the few vids i've seen of him is him just standing there.

Not exactly fleet of foot but not statuesque either. Screamed "COME ON" a lot. Not particularly good at getting the crowd riled up but he didn't need to be. Harris was on fire, particularly during the X Factour. Davey and Jan were full of energy too. Crowd seemed more interested in Steve than anything else when I saw them. That Blood on the World's Hands intro was immense.
 
snake plissken said:
Not exactly fleet of foot but not statuesque either. Screamed "COME ON" a lot. Not particularly good at getting the crowd riled up but he didn't need to be. Harris was on fire, particularly during the X Factour. Davey and Jan were full of energy too. Crowd seemed more interested in Steve than anything else when I saw them. That Blood on the World's Hands intro was immense.

Blood on the World Hand live is, imo, the best b side on the Best of the B Sides collection.  That song is ridiculously heavy, i'd say more than even Montsegur.  I saw some videos of him online, and Blaze just stands there gripping the mike and looking menacing at the crowd...kinda like Eddie I suppose.
 
I don't remember much from the 1996 gig I saw, but from what I do remember, Blaze sounded passable on the old Maiden stuff, but nowhere at the level of Bruce (duh).   However, he really smoked on TXF material.  On the other hand, it's the classic material that the fans had come to see, and they were rather bored during TXF songs, but exploded during the older songs.  

Should IM have gone the Judas Priest route and got someone from a cover band?  There is no doubt that Ripper really filled in nicely for Halford during their late 90's early 2000's run, and in some cases sounded better than Halford could at the time--even though his stage presence may have even been worse than Blaze.  

Finally, my guess is that if Bruce hadn't returned to IM, IM just might not be around today.  There is only so much you can jerk the fans around before they don't give a damn anymore.  Van Halen found that out the hard way in 96 and 97 when they broke up with Sammy to briefly reunite with DLR, but found he was still an asshole and dumped him.  They went with Gary Charone, who they tried too hard to make into a Hagar clone, and thus didn't take advantage of his full vocal range.  About the only good thing to come out of that was the tour, which featured more DLR material than they had done with Sammy.  Unfortunately, the fans weren't as into it, and VH went into hibernation for many years, with a brief reunion with Sammy in 2004, and now the ongoing "reunion" with DLR, although it's not really Van Halen without Michael Anthony (whom the VH brothers didn't even want for the 2004 reunion, but Sammy put his foot down). 
 
I saw Maiden on TXF and V11 tours here in Texas and it was a dark time to be Maiden fan....
tiny venues and most of the people there didn't even know Bruce was out of the band...those concerts were surreal.

..I had seen Maiden at sold out arenas up until then and to see them playing clubs was hard for me to swallow.

.Harry and the boys still gave it 100 percent to their credit..but poor Blaze was in over his head and it was apparent to all in attendance Blaze looked uncertain and frankly scared at the Virtual gig I saw them at... I knew that night that Maiden with that line up was over....

Maiden's return to glory has been especially sweet for me and I'm sure all of us  who suffered the indignities of the 90's

Up The Irons!
 
bbreeg614 said:
I saw Maiden on TXF and V11 tours here in Texas and it was a dark time to be Maiden fan....
tiny venues and most of the people there didn't even know Bruce was out of the band...those concerts were surreal.

..I had seen Maiden at sold out arenas up until then and to see them playing clubs was hard for me to swallow.

.Harry and the boys still gave it 100 percent to their credit..but poor Blaze was in over his head and it was apparent to all in attendance Blaze looked uncertain and frankly scared at the Virtual gig I saw them at... I knew that night that Maiden with that line up was over....

Maiden's return to glory has been especially sweet for me and I'm sure all of us  who suffered the indignities of the 90's

Up The Irons!
:ok: sums it up perfectly.
 
Saw Blaze Twice with Maiden and hated his performances  :down:he was completely the wrong choice for Maiden what Steve was thinking about when he knocked back Doogie White i will never know?? Doogie was and still is a vastly superior vocalist and frontman then Blaze he did a fantastic job in the reformed Ritchie Blackmores Rainbow and would have been brilliant in Maiden IMHO
 
How small did the venues become for Maiden during this era? Did they still have back drops and did a big Eddie still walk on during iron maiden? Thanks.

PS - in defence of the Blaze era (which produced some fantastic songs) wasn't the metal world in general undergoing a period of (mainstream) decline?
 
The Mid-Distance Runner said:
PS - in defence of the Blaze era (which produced some fantastic songs) wasn't the metal world in general undergoing a period of (mainstream) decline?

Yes, but Blaze replacing Bruce didn't help.

Althought this was mostly for the mainstream business in the US and UK. Maiden were still very popular in France and Germany, for instance. Before you say it, that counts, because those two countries are technically bigger than the UK. And Maiden sold out football stadiums in Brazil and Argentina in '95-'98, so what do you want.

Despite everything, Blaze is playing a headline show in Berlin (my hometown) in December, so guess who's going.
 
The Mid-Distance Runner said:
How small did the venues become for Maiden during this era? Did they still have back drops and did a big Eddie still walk on during iron maiden? Thanks.

PS - in defence of the Blaze era (which produced some fantastic songs) wasn't the metal world in general undergoing a period of (mainstream) decline?

They stayed very popular in Europe and South America which is just as well. God knows what would've happened if their popularity had plummeted the way it did in the UK and the USA. When I saw them play a very small show in Dublin there was a walk on Eddie during 2 Minutes To Midnight and a behind the drum kit Eddie during Iron Maiden.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUQ-ETR1 ... re=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ai1fXCZINfg
 
I have seen Blaze solo thrice, but also two times with Maiden, in 1995 and 1998.

What was it like? Well, back in 1995, it was only the second Maiden concert I visited. I had seen the band one time before that, and that was in 1992. I didn't see the band in the eighties, so I didn't have a huge "Bruce concert past" as many older people around that time. I was 20, and I was just terribly excited to see the band, and -in a time without internet- I was mighty curious about the songs. So the whole thing was more about the gig and the music, than about Blaze. To be honest, I'd seen Blaze on MTV (Ray Cokes!) doing Man On The Edge and Wrathchild and that went very good. Blaze had a different voice, maybe even a different approach than the other singers but as long as it sounded good, it was OK for me. The Di'Anno material certainly fitted his voice well. Also his own songs went pretty good. Someone earlier in this topic said that the TXF songs sounded so much better live than the studio versions. This was true, but believe me: this is the case with most Maiden songs.

Blaze came across as a humble and motivated person, with as much fire in the eyes as Bruce.
It showed he was in a band he loved and he respected the audience very much. I liked his performance, but the 1980s Bruce-era songs were hard to do for him. Too high for his range. Why do I say 1980s Bruce-era, and not just Bruce-era? You'll see that later*. During the concert it didn't show that much (I was at least as focused on the other guys, and very in awe to see Maiden again), but listening to bootlegs it's easier to focus on it.

From the regular TXF-tour setlist the following songs went not that good or even very bad:

Heaven Can Wait
The Evil That Men Do
2 Minutes to Midnight
The Clairvoyant
The Number of the Beast
Hallowed Be Thy Name

These songs went from pretty OK to very good:

Man On The Edge
Wrathchild
Lord of the Flies
Fortunes of War
Blood on the World's Hands
Afraid to Shoot Strangers
The Aftermath
Sign of the Cross
The Edge of Darkness
Fear of the Dark
Iron Maiden
Running Free

From the non-Blaze era songs I particularly remember that he was very good in Wrathchild, Fear of the Dark* and also Afraid to Shoot Strangers*. From the TXF songs, I thought he did Man on the Edge and Blood on the World's Hands the best.

Three years later, Maiden was back. This time I stood closer to the stage and had a very good view on Blaze and the other moving band members. Blaze looked much more comfortable in his role as frontman and the band was (as always) on fire. I remember a particular awesome part in the set where Sign of the Cross, Afraid to Shoot Strangers and Hallowed Be Thy Name were played in a row!  :blink:

This time I'll focus on the songs which went not good, or (very) bad:

Lightning Strikes Twice (he couldn't do the chorus)
Heaven Can Wait
2 Minutes To Midnight
Hallowed Be Thy Name
The Evil That Men Do

Of course, in other songs he had some edgy moments, but such things are only notable on bootlegs. Again I was in awe of seeing the band, and I swear, that even though I realized that Blaze didn't do some songs that well, I was still happy with the performance and I didn't mind he was in the band. At the time I liked both Blaze albums, but now I am more critical with VXI.

Judgement:

Was Blaze a bad performer?
No

Was Blaze a bad singer?
No

Was Blaze a bad singer when it comes to 1980s Bruce era songs and other high parts in some other songs?
Yes

The setlist didn't do much good. Even though these difficult songs were less than the half of the set, these were the moments many people remember. Especially the people who only compared Blaze with Bruce and who didn't want to accept Blaze as a new singer, joining Maiden in a new chapter of the book.

Other aspects (taken from Blaze's official biography) Blaze had to deal with: failing techniques (soundwise), short rehearsing time, and he had to deal with an annoying roady, I think it was a monitor man.

Blaze himself did his utter best but he had to work in difficult circumstances and he had to deal with an enormous  legacy. I really wish people would read his biography. It gives honest insight into his world at the time.

Despite all the criticism, right before and after he was replaced, the first time I saw Blaze solo, after his debut, I was immediately convinced that he was a good performer, and singer.
 
Disregarding his vocal performance, I think Blaze's stage persona and crowd interaction is so intense that it's better suited for an small and intimate venue. Perhaps I'm wrong but I can't imagine him holding the attention of a stadium. And while I can't imagine seeing Maiden in a 800 capacity place, seeing post-IM Blaze in a room holding no more than 2/300 people is simply fantastic.
 
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